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Jmanghan
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Obi-Wan Kenobi vs King Adas Axes

Here's the gist of it, Kenobi is required to pick up one of King Adas' axes and fight a group of stormtroopers decently with i with no force augmentations.

Kenobi can only use H2H for defense, and not offence.

Kenobi must kill 5 unarmed stormtroopers with Adas' axe, if he does it with ease, then give them blasters. If he does THAT with ease, then add 5 more.

Personally I think its a bit a too heavy for the itty bitty little guy.


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The Axe is about the same size as him in length, or about 3 quarters.


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Kek, pre-prime Kenobi is on near-equal footing with Maul in every physical (obviously given their encounters), frequently shrugged off Maul's blows capable of creating holes inside people or even f**king wampas, etc. can tear apart Grievous's armor, can withstand his blows (Grievous's strength feats speak for themselves), resisted Anakin's pressure (let's just talk about what he could do to Dooku - somebody with actually incredible physicals despite just not using them as a combative asset because of Makashi mastery - with his physical prowess) and stuff and stuff and stuff.

Obi-Wan will have completely no problem utilizing this shit. Obviously it's not his weapon of choice, and the size makes it a terrible weapon for him, but he's still completely capable of using them to good effect, although they're just terribly poor weapons for him.


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...Tbh only one of those qualified as a strength feat, and we dunno if any of those feats are force amplified.

Not saying they aren't legit feats, I'm just saying ripping open Grievous armor that was already partially exposed in the first place isn't the most impressive feat in the world, isn't nearly as impressive as picking up an Alchemic Ancient Sith Axe.


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He lifts three of them, no problem.


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He lifts three of them, no problem.
Based on what?

Ripping open Grievous chest, that was already partially exposed?


Or a few forc amplified durability feats that don't fall in line with strength feats.


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and we dunno if any of those feats are force amplified.


All Force-sensitive feats are Force amplified. erm


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All Force-sensitive feats are Force amplified. erm [/B]
Why?

Do the writers not want us to be able to measure their strength with none-amplified feats?

Back in Adas' time I doubt they even knew how to use force amplification.

I mean, if they're force-amped, of course they're gonna do amazing physical things, its just weird for me that they don't let strength feats are there for themselves.

Just as well, I'm not saying what Kenibi has survived isn't impressive, I'm just saying his strength feats aren't exactly up to par with Adas' strength feats.

Being able to carry something with one hand that an entire race needed two hands to carry is no small feat. Well, almost an entire race.


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I'm pretty sure the writers could give less of a shit about whether or not we can measure their physical strength tbh

And Zannah as a ten year old child with no training figured out how to use Force augmentation, I'm pretty sure ****ing Adas knew how to do it.


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I'm pretty sure the writers could give less of a shit about whether or not we can measure their physical strength tbh
All I'm saying is, its kinda stupid trying to measure a non-force amplified physical beast against people who aren't nearly as strong as him, but are nearly force-amplified all the time.


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I'm pretty sure the writers could give less of a shit about whether or not we can measure their physical strength tbh

And Zannah as a ten year old child with no training figured out how to use Force augmentation, I'm pretty sure ****ing Adas knew how to do it.


It was 23,000 years before the age of Ragnos and all them. "The force is ageless".

But Force Augmentation by that point was fairly common, everyone knew how to use it.


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Why?

Because they use the Force to bolster their physical abilities.

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Do the writers not want us to be able to measure their strength with none-amplified feats?

They don't care.

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Back in Adas' time I doubt they even knew how to use force amplification.

It's a natural ability gauged by one's command of the Force. Learning isn't required.


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It was 23,000 years before the age of Ragnos and all them.

Yeah you're missing the point, if an untrained child with Force sensitivity can figure out how to use Force augmentation with no training, then its a simple enough ability to learn/figure out that it should've been used pretty much since the dawn of Force users.


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I gotta start reading more SW books.

Regardless, being able to hold two Ancient Sith Axes that the entire race of Sith needed one hand to hold overshadows Kenobi's strength feats.


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Heck untrained Force Adepts can also bolster their abilities and they are usually on primitive worlds, with no training guides, they just tap into their power they know they have.

If Adas can't do what untrained Force Adepts and children can do, then I don't know what to tell you.


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Heck untrained Force Adepts can also bolster their abilities and they are usually on primitive worlds, with no training guides, they just tap into their power they know they have.

If Adas can't do what untrained Force Adepts and children can do, then I don't know what to tell you.
I don't think you understand the extent of the time going back, by this point, using "force powers" wasn't even common, a bunch of the Rakata knew it, sure, but by the time the Rakata had invaded, Adas was already 300 years old.


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I don't think you understand the logical ramifications of what literally everyone else is saying. It's extremely simple logic.


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@Jman: ... what? No, it was still common. erm The Rakata used the Force for virtually everything they did.


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Based on what?

Ripping open Grievous chest, that was already partially exposed?


Or a few forc amplified durability feats that don't fall in line with strength feats.


More the fact that simple thugs can lift a ton in Star Wars, and Kenobi has beaten up trained soldiers, nevermind thugs in bars that work for Hutts.


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More the fact that simple thugs can lift a ton in Star Wars, and Kenobi has beaten up trained soldiers, nevermind thugs in bars that work for Hutts.
Lol, source?


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