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The Hero of Tython & Barsen'thor vs Darth Vader
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Jaggarath
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The Hero of Tython & Barsen'thor vs Darth Vader

Who wins?


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cs_zoltan
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Team as of?


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Syndicate
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Outlander feats or nah?

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Jaggarath
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As of SoR. No KotFE.


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Syndicate
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*Shrug*

I'll go Vader.

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cs_zoltan
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Vader. It took HoT + 6 people to beat Revan.


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Even then they weren't enough.

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Deronn Solo
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Vader, if he doesn't job.


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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Jader dies. Vader wins.


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NewGuy01
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Vader.

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carthage
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Vader


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AncientPower
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Team, lol. Vader ~ Revan = Cancer.

Let's also not pretend that any member of the Coalition team would make up for either Hero or 'thor.


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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Vader doesn't have to be = Revan to defeat this duo.

BM amped Hero, Marr, Lana, Theron and co. were STILL going to lose to Revan without Spirit Revan's intervention. Those four are far more formidable than regular Hero and regular 'Thor.

Vader wins.


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FreshestSlice
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Vader would have killed the Wookiee.

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Jaggarath
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Nigga couldn't even rip a holocron out of Ezra's hand. He ain't killing shiz.


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AncientPower
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Considering 'thor has basically stomped the First Son and the Hero has solidly defeated a Voice of the Emperor. Both of them growing far stronger in the years leading to the Revanite War, it's an excellent feat for Revan, not an inclination of inferiority to Darth Vader.

Revan the Resurrected is quite clearly approaching the likes of Darth Plagueis and Yoda. Considering he's tanking and absorbing lightning 'infinitely' more powerful than lightning on the teir of Darth Bane a superior of Dooku, before achieving two concurrent increases in power. Vader isn't on par with that whatsoever.


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Considering 'thor has basically stomped the First Son


Right.

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and the Hero has solidly defeated a Voice of the Emperor.


Which means shit. Because we know the actual Emperor could kill half a dozen of him in an instant.

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Both of them growing far stronger in the years leading to the Revanite War,


Based on?

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it's not an inclination of inferiority to Darth Vader.


Actually, it kinda is.

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AncientPower
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She tanked his assaults and sent him flying, First Son was amped by hundreds of Jedi at that time.

It means an awful lot actually, given that the likes of Baras needed a dark side entity to enact his plan. This against an inferior Voice, the Voice is also implied to be capable of cowing the Dark Council and the Dread Masters regardless of his state.

The protags have always grown in power across separate acts and the statements by the likes of Satele Shan only reinforce this.

Considering Revan is a solid superior of Darth Vader, not really.


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She tanked his assaults and sent him flying, First Son was amped by hundreds of Jedi at that time.


Vivicar* was amped by hundreds of Jedi. The Barsen'thor only did anything like what you're saying in the Dark Side ending, which is presumably not the canon route. The First Son was simultaneously fighting an internal war with his alter ego Syo Bakarn, which even factors into the gameplay. An unseen battle of unknown length being ended by a successful telekinetic assault against an exhausted opponent doesn't necessarily indicate that the entire fight was one-sided. Seriously, there are too many things wrong with this to address at once. laughing out loud

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It means an awful lot actually, given that the likes of Baras needed a dark side entity to enact his plan.


Wow, the ever-relevant Darth Baras is afraid to confront his mythically powerful Emperor? And this is magically relevant in regards to the weakened, vulnerable voice that the Hero defeated? Yeah, you sure got me there. laughing out loud

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This against an inferior Voice, the Voice is also implied to be capable of cowing the Dark Council and the Dread Masters regardless of his state.


"Regardless of his state."

Yeah, calling bullshit. Especially considering that the allegedly "far more powerful" versions of the protags couldn't begin to stand against the Dread Masters alone. laughing out loud

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The protags have always grown in power across separate acts--


--in other words, you have nothing but your own wild conjecture. And Satele's claims regarding the protags haven't changed since Act 1. laughing out loud

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AncientPower
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The First Son had connections to the rest of the Emperor's Children, whom numbered in the hundreds. His ability to hide the others from the Order was also rescindable. When facing Lord Vivicar, he was amped by hundreds of Jedi Masters, in all endings to the fight the Barsen'thor was the very apparent superior.

The Voss of the Emperor isn't as strong as the actual Voice of the Emperor, despite this Darth Baras had no delusions. He knew he alone wouldn't stand a chance, thus he led the Voss into the nightmare lands.

The Dread Masters state that the Emperor's absence leaves them with no one Sith worthy of their obedience. The Voice of the Emperor was himself the only one who commanded them personally, cry wolf as much as you please but the evidence is apparent.

You mean besides the fact that all four Force user classes all greatly increase in power across the story, the Dread War arc and the Hutt War arc are both considered Acts themselves and even take place over a considerable amount of time.

Smilies aren't helping your failing stance, Revan >> Vader, thus using Revan as a means to argue this team's inferiority is an exercise in futility.


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