I dunno, the universe was following along with Earth, so I'm thinking the universe basically followed Earth wherever it went, instead of being "moved". (Can you say the Earth destroyed the universe like a bomb? Same thing, the universe played Simon Says with Earth, following it and dying out when the planet dies..)
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even if you count the "universe" pushing, doesn't really matter. it was a cheese feat and is at best unquantifiably controversial, at worst, completely misinterpreted. thor still has far greater versatility. any strength difference would be negligible and thor has beaten other versions of hyperion as well. i'd still take thor for a good majority, especially an out-for-the-kill thor using his powers fully.
Exactly. And it's not even a matter of opinion. Without mjolnir, Thor is basically a souped up asgardian (and asgardians are not impressive at all); probably a high meta.
I said high meta OR low herald. If one is true then my statement is true. In other words, my statement is false ONLY IF both assertions are false.
FYI, Hercules is either a high meta or low herald too. And Hercules >>>stripped Thor.
I said OR low herald. I generally say that all heralds have a mode of transportation or great speed.
In other words, one cannot be a herald (by definition) if they can't travel great enough distances in short amount of times.
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so is thor under these stips. hype would still have speed and flight then so that would make a difference. hype wins against a neutered thor and this is s pretty fail thread.