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Thank Michael bay for the MCU

Watching the first Transformers and it occurred to me that the exact same style of almost slapstick humour mixed with great over the top action set pieces is what the MCUs bread and butter is. Does anyone else see the almost carbon copy of structure here? Which begs the question of why are the MCU films so celebrated and the Bay films so despised critically? Whats that one minor difference that separates these two franchises that couldn't be any differently received critically.

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The first Bay Transformers film was actually great.

Unfortunately he never captured that magic again with the sequels. But the popularity of the first one seems to have kept the franchise going all this time.

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If we're going for influences that made the MCU what it is, then Sam Raimi is infinitely more important due to the nature of the Spider-Man trilogy.


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Or the first X-men trilogy.

As to Transformers though, it doesn't matter what people seem to think of the quality. The last two, which are arguably the worst two, are the two that broke a billion at the box office. And the next one will probably make over a billion as well, regardless of how good/bad it ends up being.


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Also, the MCU is very character-driven. They actually have characters you invest in emotionally, and want to see succeed. The Transformers movies had Sam Witwicky (instead of wanting him to succeed, I wanted him to get crushed by rubble during one of the extremely long battle scenes) and whatever Mark Wahlberg's character's name is (the fact that I can't even remember his name shows how forgettable I found him).


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don't worry Bay will join the DCEU soon


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don't worry Bay will join the DCEU soon


He and Snyder can have "most destruction in one battle" competitions. big grin

Though they'd still lose to Singer, with X-Men: Apocalypse. Magneto probably killed millions of people during the final act. But hey, he helped rebuild the X-mansion, so it's all good.


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Practically makes Mags the real hero of that film


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Good thing Havok blew it up, or we'd have no one to cheer for later.


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He and Snyder can have "most destruction in one battle" competitions. big grin

Though they'd still lose to Singer, with X-Men: Apocalypse. Magneto probably killed millions of people during the final act. But hey, he helped rebuild the X-mansion, so it's all good.



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don't worry Bay will join the DCEU soon




At least we'd get tons of action.

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At least we'd get tons of action.




cars will be blown up a lot lol


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cars will be blown up a lot lol



Cool lol

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cars will be blown up a lot lol


Don't forget the asteroids and Ebonics speaking robots.


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Watching the first Transformers and it occurred to me that the exact same style of almost slapstick humour mixed with great over the top action set pieces is what the MCUs bread and butter is. Does anyone else see the almost carbon copy of structure here? Which begs the question of why are the MCU films so celebrated and the Bay films so despised critically? Whats that one minor difference that separates these two franchises that couldn't be any differently received critically.
Marvel u is great and the DC u is pitiful. Your opinion reminds me of a female upset when her menstrual cycle as gone awry.


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Marvel u is great and the DC u is pitiful. Your opinion reminds me of a female upset when her menstrual cycle as gone awry.


Marvel hasn't always been great and DC hasn't always been pitiful. The balance seems to fluctuate every now and then.


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Marvel hasn't always been great and DC hasn't always been pitiful. The balance seems to fluctuate every now and then.
Comparing the cinematic universes you're a moron if you think DC is in the same conversation in terms of quality, dummy.


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Comparing the cinematic universes you're a moron if you think DC is in the same conversation in terms of quality, dummy.


I clearly said that the balance of which side is better tends to fluctuate. I'm not sure how to make that any clearer. That doesn't mean I am saying at the current time Marvel isn't doing better films.


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I clearly said that the balance of which side is better tends to fluctuate. I'm not sure how to make that any clearer. That doesn't mean I am saying at the current time Marvel isn't doing better films.
All of the DC cinematic combined films are bad. Marvel has great films from its combined films. It isn't even close, dummy.


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All of the DC cinematic combined films are bad. Marvel has great films from its combined films. It isn't even close, dummy.


I wasn't relegating it to just combined films. I was thinking of films like "The Dark Knight".


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