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Anakin VS Grievous (Legends Only) By Jensaarai1

I'm honestly scared to watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2koUoG7pJk

I was gonna do this. Frak.


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I don't want to watch it. Anakin just crushes Grievous' rib cage


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He's quite biased against Anakin. He's using AoTC fight against Dooku as an example of Anakin's inability to defend lmao, even though the gap in his skills between AoTC and RoTS is massive.


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He's quite biased against Anakin. He's using AoTC fight against Dooku as an example of Anakin's inability to defend lmao, even though the gap in his skills between AoTC and RoTS is massive.


He also disregards a great deal of Anakin's physical feats. Same with his saber skill.


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He gives the victory to Grievous.

I don't know why I'm even surprised, lol.


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Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
He also disregards a great deal of Anakin's physical feats. Same with his saber skill.

bulq is stronger than anakin comes to mind

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Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
He also disregards a great deal of Anakin's physical feats. Same with his saber skill.


This is why I joined this forum 2 days ago. I enjoyed watching the versus series youtubers until I started doing the research and reading the books myself and realising how stupid a lot of the things they say are.

RoTS Anakin is 8/9 depending on what part of RoTS Anakin you're using.

"Anakin could win if he kept a cool head." Wtf. Anakin when he was raged and all amped up became a ****ing 9 and made Drallig look like a joke. When he fought Kenobi even he, the master of Soresu thought to himself that Anakin was going to kill him.

Let's just think about that for a second. Theoretically, it is said that no Soresu master could have their saber defenses broken except possibly by Juyo. Anakin was using Form V. That's how amped up and powerful Anakin/Vader was at that point.

There's no way Grievous stands a chance. Give Fisto a second lightsaber and Grievous gets rofl stomped.


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Originally posted by samappo
This is why I joined this forum 2 days ago. I enjoyed watching the versus series youtubers until I started doing the research and reading the books myself and realising how stupid a lot of the things they say are.

RoTS Anakin is 8/9 depending on what part of RoTS Anakin you're using.

"Anakin could win if he kept a cool head." Wtf. Anakin when he was raged and all amped up became a ****ing 9 and made Drallig look like a joke. When he fought Kenobi even he, the master of Soresu thought to himself that Anakin was going to kill him.

Let's just think about that for a second. Theoretically, it is said that no Soresu master could have their saber defenses broken except possibly by Juyo. Anakin was using Form V. That's how amped up and powerful Anakin/Vader was at that point.

There's no way Grievous stands a chance. Give Fisto a second lightsaber and Grievous gets rofl stomped.


I'd say even Invisible Hand Anakin is a 9.


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I'd say even Invisible Hand Anakin is a 9.


I'm open to believing that. Your reasoning though?


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Pretty sure Gillard remarked that Anakin was an 8 during the earlier stages of the fight, but then went to a 9 after Dooku used Dun Moch.


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Pretty sure Gillard remarked that Anakin was an 8 during the earlier stages of the fight, but then went to a 9 after Dooku used Dun Moch.


Yeah like, he is an 8 but when his emotions get the better of him, his force potential is that great (way higher than Yoda's apparently) he gets instantly amped to 9.


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I'm open to believing that. Your reasoning though?


I recently listened to the Invisible Hand fight of the audiobook on YouTube. Even before Anakin gives into his rage Dooku regards him as a "machine of battle" or something along those lines. Idk. The way Anakin was preforming against Dooku just screamed 9 for me.

Going from just the ROTS movie it clearly seems Anakin's more effective on the Invisible Hand than on Mustafar.

When he was driving back Dooku on the stairs the Count visible retreating from his strength while on Mustafar after Anakin smacks Kenobi when they jump down from the pipe the two grab each others wrists with Kenobi redirecting Anakin which shouldn't have happened under normal circumstances.

To be fair Pre-Suit Vader batted Kenobi's blade aside multiple times while Grievous couldn't.

I can see Invisible Hand Anakin being an 8 although I'd still argue Anakin's prime was on the Invisible Hand. At least when he was a Jedi.

The "finest Djem So user" Dooku had ever seen puts him above Plo Koon.

Operation Knightfall is tricky. I'd argue that he could still stomp Drallig as a Jedi.

Going from the audiobook/novelization Mace calls Anakin:

"Arguably the most powerful Jedi alive"

Even in the movie Obi-Wan says Anakin's become a "far greater Jedi".

Neither of them witnessed Zonakin and while those statements could be taken with a grain of salt for me it says something that Windu partially conceded to his own ego.


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Great video. smile


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Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
I recently listened to the Invisible Hand fight of the audiobook on YouTube. Even before Anakin gives into his rage Dooku regards him as a "machine of battle" or something along those lines. Idk. The way Anakin was preforming against Dooku just screamed 9 for me.

Going from just the ROTS movie it clearly seems Anakin's more effective on the Invisible Hand than on Mustafar.

When he was driving back Dooku on the stairs the Count visible retreating from his strength while on Mustafar after Anakin smacks Kenobi when they jump down from the pipe the two grab each others wrists with Kenobi redirecting Anakin which shouldn't have happened under normal circumstances.

To be fair Pre-Suit Vader batted Kenobi's blade aside multiple times while Grievous couldn't.

I can see Invisible Hand Anakin being an 8 although I'd still argue Anakin's prime was on the Invisible Hand. At least when he was a Jedi.

The "finest Djem So user" Dooku had ever seen puts him above Plo Koon.

Operation Knightfall is tricky. I'd argue that he could still stomp Drallig as a Jedi.

Going from the audiobook/novelization Mace calls Anakin:

"Arguably the most powerful Jedi alive"

Even in the movie Obi-Wan says Anakin's become a "far greater Jedi".

Neither of them witnessed Zonakin and while those statements could be taken with a grain of salt for me it says something that Windu partially conceded to his own ego.



Interesting points. Doesn't Gillard say that Anakin is an 8 but when he turns to the dark side he becomes a 9?


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When he uses the dark side he's a 9, ergo the duel on the Invisible Hand counts because that's exactly what he did.


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I don't want to watch it. Anakin just crushes Grievous' rib cage


"Sigh." Here we go again. Please try to pay attention to what I actually say, if that's not too much to ask.

No he wouldn't. That's not how Anakin operates. He almost never uses the Force as his opening move. He prefers to beat his foe with lightsabre combat. Typically he only uses the Force offensively after an opponent uses it against him (which Grievous can't). Just watch/read any of his fights and you'll see this.

That is why Forums like this are flawed. You need to look at the characters personalities and how they actually behave. You need to understand that just because they 'could' do something that doesn't mean they will.

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Interesting points. Doesn't Gillard say that Anakin is an 8 but when he turns to the dark side he becomes a 9?


You're taking that "Levels" stuff WAY too seriously. This isn't Duel Monsters where the winner is the one with the most Attack Points. HOW one fights and their specific approach to combat matters, not just what "Level" you are.

Anakin is simply too direct and too aggressive. That's the worst approach you can take against Grievous. Heck, in the ROTS novel Mace flat-out says that he believes Kenobi is the best choice to beat Grievous precisely because of his focus on defence.

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There's no way Grievous stands a chance. Give Fisto a second lightsaber and Grievous gets rofl stomped.


If you had paid attention you'd know this video is Legends material only. The childish Disney nonsense doesn't apply.

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Anakin's aggressive style vs Grievous' aggressive style would end with Grievous plastered into the floor as Anakin marches onward.


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Where does Mace stand per Gillard?


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Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
I recently listened to the Invisible Hand fight of the audiobook on YouTube. Even before Anakin gives into his rage Dooku regards him as a "machine of battle" or something along those lines. Idk. The way Anakin was preforming against Dooku just screamed 9 for me.

Going from just the ROTS movie it clearly seems Anakin's more effective on the Invisible Hand than on Mustafar.

When he was driving back Dooku on the stairs the Count visible retreating from his strength while on Mustafar after Anakin smacks Kenobi when they jump down from the pipe the two grab each others wrists with Kenobi redirecting Anakin which shouldn't have happened under normal circumstances.

To be fair Pre-Suit Vader batted Kenobi's blade aside multiple times while Grievous couldn't.

I can see Invisible Hand Anakin being an 8 although I'd still argue Anakin's prime was on the Invisible Hand. At least when he was a Jedi.

The "finest Djem So user" Dooku had ever seen puts him above Plo Koon.

Operation Knightfall is tricky. I'd argue that he could still stomp Drallig as a Jedi.

Going from the audiobook/novelization Mace calls Anakin:

"Arguably the most powerful Jedi alive"

Even in the movie Obi-Wan says Anakin's become a "far greater Jedi".

Neither of them witnessed Zonakin and while those statements could be taken with a grain of salt for me it says something that Windu partially conceded to his own ego.
Dooku retreating up the stairs is a tactical advantage. "I have the high ground!"


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I don't want to watch it. Anakin just crushes Grievous' rib cage


If you actually bothered to watch it Jensaarai1 clearly states that Anakin COULD do that but he wouldn't because that's not Anakin's style.

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Anakin's aggressive style vs Grievous' aggressive style would end with Grievous plastered into the floor as Anakin marches onward.


Mace Windu didn't think so.

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