nfactor1995
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Exar Kun vs Obi-Wan Kenobi - Lightsabers Only
Prime versions. This is a lightsabers only fight, but Force augmentation is still allowed. Fight takes place on neutral ground.
Who wins and why?
Jul 29th, 2017 07:20 PM
Deronn Solo
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Exar Kun should have this.
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:25 PM
Rockydonovang
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Kenobi is an 8, if I throw kun a bone and let him be a 7, he still gets destoyed
Jul 29th, 2017 07:25 PM
Jaggarath
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Kun's an 8, but don't mix up Gillard's tiers with Legends.
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:27 PM
Deronn Solo
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Nice arbitrary numbering you have there, Rocky. A shame you can't actually prove jack shit with it.
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:27 PM
JKBart
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Kenobi. All out would be an entirely different story, but sabers only Kenobi has this in a great fight.
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:28 PM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Kun's an 8, but don't mix up Gillard's tiers with Legends. Kun's an 8 because....
And the eu is still based on the movies and hence Gillard's system, which remains uncontradicted, holds weight
Jul 29th, 2017 07:30 PM
Jaggarath
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Not the point I'm getting at. Don't restrict Kun due to something as arbitrary as that. If you don't think Kun is as good as Kenobi, then just debate Kun vs Kenobi. You're placing a ceiling there when one doesn't exist.
Lucas made the system specifically for the films. Crossing it into the EU doesn't work due to the wealth of characters + how vague the tiers are.
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:31 PM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Nice arbitrary numbering you have there, Rocky. A shame you can't actually prove jack shit with it.
Nothing arbitrary here, Kenobi's a "cheat" tier combatant who as an 8 is elevated over even typical top class swordsmen(tier 7).
Kun can only be argued to be one of the best and top tier which would only place him as a 7
Jul 29th, 2017 07:31 PM
Jaggarath
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Gillard never stated tier 7 is a top class swordsmen.
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:33 PM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not the point I'm getting at. Don't restrict Kun due to something as arbitrary as that. If you don't think Kun is as good as Kenobi, then just debate Kun vs Kenobi. You're placing a ceiling there when one doesn't exist.
Gillard made the systems specifically for the films,
There's no ceiling here. If Kun had sufficient feats(significant scaling over someone who's indicated to be one of the best in history), kun could be argued to be an 8.
Jul 29th, 2017 07:36 PM
Deronn Solo
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Kun can only be argued to be one of the best and top tier which would only place him as a 7
Lmao, this was stated absolutely nowhere, only some shit you created in your head canon.
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:36 PM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Gillard never stated tier 7 is a top class swordsmen.
they represented the "peak of lightsaber combat"
and we know that those among the best in history(fisto) are tier 7's
Jul 29th, 2017 07:36 PM
Jaggarath
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Quote me.
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:37 PM
Rockydonovang
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I'll go fishing sir
Jul 29th, 2017 07:38 PM
thesithmaster
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JKBart
Kenobi. All out would be an entirely different story, but sabers only Kenobi has this in a great fight.
This.
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Jul 29th, 2017 07:55 PM
Ursumeles
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JKBart
Kenobi. All out would be an entirely different story, but sabers only Kenobi has this in a great fight.
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Jul 29th, 2017 08:06 PM
NewGuy01
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Location: USA
Exar Kun doesn't really have the feats to warrant placement over Kenobi, honestly.
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Jul 29th, 2017 08:27 PM
Trocity
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True but don't forget that he has a tricked out lightsaber that no one knows how to counter.
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Jul 30th, 2017 03:08 AM
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Kenobi kicks his ass
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