From what we've seen he can hang favorably against Lord Chaos AND Master Order bit significantly below this day and age's Owen Reece. How would Lifebringer do against:
1. Rune King Thor + Odin
2. Four Celestials
3.Exitar
4. One Voltron Celestial (from 4)
5. One Ivory King
I am not at all convinced that Lifebringer can defeat the merged/Voltron Celestial. The latter was able to casually one-shot-kill Galactus amped by 4 worlds...
^ Beating O&C is an uber feat, to be sure... But to kill a massively amped Galactus, with ONE casual blast? Truly unreal. I am not of the opinion that O&C could have killed *that* Galactus nearly as easily(if at all.) /shrug
But I reckon the merged Celestial is > O&C as well(like I said above, I don't see them killing a massively amped Galactus nearly as easy -- if at all.) If there is evidence to the contrary, I hope someone posts it.
Anywho, Lifebringer would have to be VASTLY more powerful than Galactus amped by 4 worlds(I'm talking orders of magnitude, here) to even have a shot at defeating Voltron. IF he wins, it'd undoubtedly be an incredibly hard-earned/taxing victory, imo.
Based on what feats could O&C casually one-shot-kill a massively amped Galactus, like Voltron did?
I don't have a problem with your opinion as long as it's fact/feat-based -- but I don't think they should get an auto-pass/insta-win just because they're low-end abstracts. /shrug
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Thats cool. Changes his dynamic...i also saw he has a new herald. But the question still remains is how powerful is he. I mean "sated" could mean anything.
Point is that status doesn't equate to an auto-win.
So I ask again:
Based on what feats could O&C casually one-shot-kill a massively amped Galactus, like Voltron did?
I don't have a problem with your opinion as long as it's fact/feat-based -- but I don't think they should get an auto-pass/insta-win just because they're 'mid-range' abstracts.
Marvel has consistently placed Abstracts on a higher level than even high end cosmics like Galactus and the Celestials.
It goes at least as far back as Gruenwald and his "Cosmos in Collison" storyline which Anomaly Maelstrom taunted Galactus and the Celestials claiming that they are ultimately just physical beings. More recently we saw how a high end abstract totally owned the entire Cancerverse whereas a dozen+ Celestials/Galactus/TandA were helpless vs their minions.
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Yeah, Abstracts don't have many feats and that totally makes sense given the nature of what they are supposed to be. In my mind they are just a rung below the likes of Eternity and Infinity in power. I was very surprised how LB Galactus was able to resist them. Unless of course those versions were not as they were much like the current Eternity (who apparently is in bonds).
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