Thanos has his armor/sword
Arthur his final trident
Diana has her gear
Who wins
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This team isn't enough, strong as it is. Shazam can't fight. Aquaman stats are just too low to pose a threat and Wonder Woman doesn't have the strength feats.
You have to be extremely lonely to just troll without any integrity on a forum. Thanos wins. Diana never gutted anyone. Am got beat up by a human being in his native armor and weaponry. Billy was being caught by the ghouls rather easily.
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Last edited by quanchi112 on Aug 15th, 2019 at 02:35 PM
I don't want to script the fight, but if the team works in conjunction with each other and doesn't just brawl against Thanos, I think they have the stats to take him down. It would require all of the tools at their disposal though:
- Diana using her speed and strength in conjuction with some good chops from her sword and the lasso.
- Arthur utilizing his skill with his trident and all of his strength and durability.
- Shazam actually fighting more like - well - Superman. He's got the speed, strength, durability, and even some lightning, which we've seen Thanos hates (obviously Thor's lightning has what might as well be infinite more feats and power than Shazam's at this point, just saying).
However, if it turns into a Justice League/Endgame brawl-a-thon (like Diana and Arthur did against Uncle Steppenwolf and Cap/IM/Thor did against Thanos, respectively), the tide turns to Thanos doing them in.
It really depends on how quickly Shazam gears up into a competent combatant once the opening bell is rung IMO.
I do not want to script the fight but I will argue on pure imagination and ignore their showings in the films. If you are this biased why even post? At least put up a disclaimer.
I'll add: if Diana's sword was strong enough to hack one of Doomsday's arms off at the elbow, Thanos is going to lose a limb as well should she get the striking opportunity. Actually, that's a good strategy going off what Adam Grimes said: Arthur and Billy distract or pin Thanos to give Diana an opening. If Thanos loses a limb, he isn't winning.
Also, Steppenwolf was a pretty potent combatant himself combat-wise, so Diana and Arthur have gone up against a big bad like Thanos before this matchup, even if they weren't making much of a dent in him prior to Supes showing up.
Thanos has superior skill to her and unlike Doomsday he beat the trio of heroes that stepped to him.
Doomsday lacked the skill to really put himself in a good position.
Steppenwolf lacked the skill, strength, durability, and experience of Thanos. These three also never beat Steppenwolf.
Thanos is the better warrior, bettervfeats, better weapon, fought more opponents than old Steppenwolf who in the end got ripped up by his subordinates due to the fear he showed after he lost his axe. Thanos beat the shit out of Carol, Tony, Thor, and Cap after he threw his sword.
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Last edited by quanchi112 on Aug 15th, 2019 at 03:33 PM
^Ya that's where I'm stuck. Thanos always came out on top if someone engaged him in CQC and melee, which is what we saw in IW and Endgame and similar confrontations with Stepp in Justice League. Supes, Bats, and WW actually had some good teamwork against Doomsday, especially Diana. IF she fights like that (lassoing Thanos and going for a limb with her sword), the team is looking good. If they just go all-out brawl, Thanos doesn't play that game for long without laying a smackdown.
Again, my biggest question mark is Shazam. If he brings his A-game, what are honestly Thanos' options against a speed-blitzer with essentially diet-Superman strength? How much damage can the titan do against Billy? Legit questions, as we only see Shazam get bettered in his film by Sivana and the seven deadly sins.
Thanos fought more experienced opponents than anyone on the JL in Thor. Thor could not even beat a Thanos who withstood multiple heroes wailing on him with two weapons against an unarmed Thanos. Doomsday is much easier to lasso up than Thanos. Thanos is way too strong to not instantly rip her off her feet even if she was successful.
Just because she cuts off Doomsday limb that does not mean she does the same to Thanos.
The Sins easily caught him and were not quick. Shazam never did anything overtly impressive in his entire film. Thanos withstood carols superior strength to even Superman just fine. He caught her with one side of his body free and tossed her aside. He did not even have both hands free or his weapon. These guys get worked. Deep down you know it.
Aquaman is crazy strong, Diana's sword is crazy sharp. And shazam is crazy fast. The three of them together could take thanos. Especially as we have never seen him being able to handle speedy guys all that well.
Thanos is stronger than hulk, hulk is stronger than Aquaman, Thanos stands to one-two shot Aquaman, he was able to predict Spidermans moves through Dr. Stranges teleportations. Shazam is a noob with zero with fighting skills or training. His only challege is Diana. If you put Diana in the MCU she would not be ranked the most powerful person in the universe, not even close.
Two of them were losing just against Steppenwolf who has no super speed. This false notion of super speed beating skilled powerhouses is absurd. Did not work on Steppenwolf or Doomsday. We see the Sins reacting just fine against Shazam without superspeed.
Aqua man took a hit from Superman that knocked him about a block away. And took hits from Steppenwolf.
Spider-Man was coming out of portals to attack Thanos in a significant amount of time. He would come out an say a full sentence before attacking Thanos. Any professional human fighter would be able to react to those attacks.
Shazam has speed and speed >>>> any amount of skill.
Agreed on Thor, lots and lots of feats of varying skills shown for Mr. Hemsworth. Not for sure I agree with Thanos being able to escape the lasso easier than Doomsday, nor do I agree with Thanos' resistance to cutting and slicing being higher than Doomsday's. However, I can see Thanos using more skill and technique to escape the lasso, though, so not saying you're wrong Quan.
So, the two stances I'm caught between are yours, NotAllThatEvil, and yours, Quan. It's really a matter of the three working together with a powerhouse like Shazam at their disposal to beat Thanos, or does the very skilled superbrute put them down before they can do so?
You have the big 3 of the MCU (Worthy Cap, Thor, and IM) getting outright beaten in a handicap match by Thanos. 3 superheroes with a boatload of feats under their belts, but - besides Thor (who was out of his prime) and to an extent IM - aren't the physical cannons that Diana, Arthur, and especially Billy are.