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Homelander Runs the Gauntlet

Homelander from the Boys shows up in rural Kansas to shoot a commercial for the latest Vought advertising campaign. He finds that several individuals have shown up to question him [SPOILER - highlight to read]: about some of his deplorable methods as a superhero.

Homelander takes them on in a gauntlet fashion:

1. Luke Cage
2. Wonder Woman
3. IW/Endgame Iron Man
4. Fox Magneto
5. Ragnarok Thor
6. Captain Marvel
7. DCEU Superman

How does America's beloved corporate superhero[SPOILER - highlight to read]: /psychopath do?

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He stops at Diana. Homelander was afraid he couldn’t stop an airplane, and that’s why he allowed everyone to Diana.

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^ He was afraid to stop the plane because he thought he'd just punch a hole through the plane or that the plane would flip tail end forward. It wasn't because he was afraid for himself.


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Yeah, he was simply acknowledging the physics that 99% of movies ignore. Like the show also portrays what would more realistically happen if a speedster like A-Train hit a non-superhuman at those speeds. That's basically what should have happened to Hawkeye in AoU, whether Pietro was holding back or not.


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Thanks for the responses fellas. Homelander was a great villain, like A+ out of all the comic book adaptations for the big or small screens. I really liked the consideration of how the physics would somewhat work in the "real" world. Lots of effort put into this production - like Hollywood blockbuster levels of quality - to show stuff like [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Robin getting splattered by A-Train and such.

I was a bit wary putting him into a forum fight on here, as his feats - while uber - are a bit lacking right now, but I figured between [SPOILER - highlight to read]: flying around at superspeed searching for Translucent, punching through reinforced skyscraper windows and people, lasering several terrorists while shrugging off bullets, and moving fast enough to get Butcher out of the blast of the C4 vest Butcher put on Madelyn in the season finale was enough to see where he lands right now.

For anyone that has read the comics, [SPOILER - highlight to read]: does John ever go up against anyone that is on his level until the Black Noir reveal? I've only glanced over the synopsis for the series (yes, I spoil myself with Wikipedia haha).

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I haven't finished all the episodes yet. At the moment I'll say he gets past WW at least, possibly past Magneto if his implied power is as great as his actual power. I'll update once I've finished the show. Superman-stereotypes are almost always near top of the food chain in these MvF matches.


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He stops at Diana. Homelander was afraid he couldn’t stop an airplane, and that’s why he allowed everyone to Diana.


Good pick.

I know it probably seems the list is a bit out-of-order, so feel free to restructure it as you seem fit.

Probably throw Wonder Woman above Magneto and slide Iron Man and Mags down a notch each. I was just thinking of how Mags at his max as of Apoc could possibly just shove a bunch of metal objects at Homelander at superspeed, and that Iron Man has a novel worth of feats in the MCU, especially when you consider he went one-on-one against Thanos in IW. However, Diana has the speed blitz, Doomsday arm sever, Superman headbutt, and Steppenwolf battles combo going for her.

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I've watched all 8 episodes, looking forward to season 2..

I'd say Homelander who stole the show gets past all. He'll likely have trouble with Diana, Thor, Carol and Kal though


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^ He was afraid to stop the plane because he thought he'd just punch a hole through the plane or that the plane would flip tail end forward. It wasn't because he was afraid for himself.



Yeah exactly it was the show making fun out of the more traditional superhero physics.

If he wanted he could have still saved as many as possible by flying them out a few at a time, but point was he really couldnt be arsed and Didnt want his reputation dented in the slightest.

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As for this, well he flies real fast, doesnt get harmed by bullets or explosions. And apparently no human weapon can harm him.

But I’m combat he mainly seems to rely on his Heat Vision.

I say he gets to Thor and loses. Or stops one below at Magneto if he has his shields.

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Any opinions of how Stormbreaker Thor would do?

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Any opinions of how Stormbreaker Thor would do?



Any version of MCU Thor should win. Remember he can take the full heat of a Star. So Heat Vision isnt going to do much to him. He can take a pounding from Hulk And nothing to suggest Stormbreaker wouldnt impale Homelander.

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It's really hard to place Homelander. He has very little in the way of actual onscreen feats, but his implied power is immense. Though we can probably scale his strength off A-Train, who can pull an actual train, yet was clearly scared when he was getting grilled one-on-one by Homelander, which implies that the latter is stronger and could take A-Train despite the speed difference.


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It depends on how much you wanna use statements. Going by those, he's at the very least nuke proof, since it was said all weapons were thrown at him.

By feats we know machine guns, etc. don't scratch him. And he's still pretty damn quick considering how quickly he got Billy out of that exploding house. That's actually a pretty crazy speed feat when you think about it.


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could take A-Train despite the speed difference.



Well as Surtur said hes obviously pretty fast himself. So may not be that much of a speed difference.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out Homelander is faster than A-Train. It's just that, from a marketing standpoint, A-Train being the "fastest" sells better.


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Any version of MCU Thor should win. Remember he can take the full heat of a Star. So Heat Vision isnt going to do much to him. He can take a pounding from Hulk And nothing to suggest Stormbreaker wouldnt impale Homelander.


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Well as Surtur said hes obviously pretty fast himself. So may not be that much of a speed difference.


Why do I have the impression that if this was Superman, you would be saying the same shit?

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Why do I have the impression that if this was Superman, you would be saying the same shit?



???

No idea.

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Well as Surtur said hes obviously pretty fast himself. So may not be that much of a speed difference.


Maybe. It's possible, but you can still be very fast and a lot slower than A-Train at the same time. Even Kimiko showed some clear super-speed while moving and fighting, yet she couldn't hold a candle to him when he focused on her. We also had A-Train dodging around actual light blasts in the final episode. So, until we get more concrete evidence, I am not going to assume that's the case.


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Maybe. It's possible, but you can still be very fast and a lot slower than A-Train at the same time.


Of course. But aside from the fact that we see how fast he can fly off. We also know he saved Billy after the bomb was already exploding. So thats pretty damn fast reflexes.

That said I dont expect him to be as fast as A-Train.

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