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Doctor Manhattan versus Solar, Man of the Atom

here you go, Whirly.

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Doc Man is like Mollecule Man but with a cooler suit!!!!

50/50 !!!


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Solar is like...um, god.

I don't see anyone short of abstracts even bothering him.


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that's what they say about manhattan as well. the doc might as well be LT, he was never shown to have any limits in the issues.


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Yep, any info on this Solar, hes new to ME !!


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Yep, any info on this Solar, hes new to ME !!


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Solar, Man of the Atom

Real Name: Phil Sileski

First Appearance: Solar, Man of the Atom #1

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History: Physicist Phil Sileski had been a fan of the Gold Key comics published in the 1960's, particularly the adventures of Doctor Solar, Man of the Atom. Now an adult Dr. Sileski designed an experimental fusion reactor along with fellow physicists, Gayle Nordheim and Erica Pierce. But an accident at the reactor unleashed forces that give Phil godlike energy powers - abilities subconsciously shared by Dr. Pierce. Unfortunately he lost control of these powers, killing everyone on Earth, including his beloved Gayle.

The power that Phil unleashed cast him through time and space into our universe, burdened with the crushing knowledge that he had destroyed his own world. To avoid repeating his world-shattering mistakes Phil merged with the Phil Seleski of this new timeline. Adopting the guise of his childhood comic book hero, Phil defended Earth from the Spider Aliens, who called him the "Destroyer" because he was bent on their total annihilation.

Phil SoleskiWith her own energy powers, Erica Pierce also came to our world and drew its heroes to the Lost Land to fight in the Unity conflict. Solar ended her bid to destroy all of creation by trapping her within a miniature wormhole. Returning from the Lost Land, Phil moved with Gayle to California, where they tried to live as a normal couple.

But Solar continued to be needed. Learning of a Spider Alien base on the moon's dark side, Solar teamed up with X-O to destroy the installation. Later, manipulated by Master Darque, Phil released another Solar, the Destroyer, who then journeyed through the galaxy, seeking to annihilate the Spider Alien Homeworld.

Powers/Abilities: Solar is capable of almost anything he can think of. He can fly, manipulate reality, even time travel.


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you remember the end of the watchmen, long pig.

doc manhattan says (in response to his growing interest in humanity): yes...i think i'll create some.

and this is after blue baldie was caught walking on water...jesus de christo!


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Yeah, actually, I was re-reading the watchmen TBP earlier today. It doesn't seem to get old.


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Yeah, actually, I was re-reading the watchmen TBP earlier today. It doesn't seem to get old.


None of Moores work but V gets old can't believe its becoming a film (bad call by the Warchowski brothers),

But -

Solar, Man of the Atom What would you desire, if nothing was beyond your grasp? If atoms and energy, the building blocks of reality, were yours to command, what more could you want? Such a man exists. A man of absolute power who wants what he cannot have: love, peace of mind, a simple life. In a world of men who covet power, he is god who wants to live as a man...

Doc M has done nothing on the Solar scale, he might be able to, I think he probably could after all they got their powers the same way and the powers are similair.

smile I go with Solar though


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He was rediculous.


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Manhattan, I think.
He was rediculous.



So is Solar Juntai, trust me on this


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So is Solar Juntai, trust me on this

So they are both nutzo power?
Is Solar omnicient as well? Manhattan knew all that was to happen or did happen.

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So they are both nutzo power?
Is Solar omnicient as well? Manhattan knew all that was to happen or did happen.


Solar created Universes, rewound time, brought people back to life, was one with the universe etc. It was his universe after all smile


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Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Solar created Universes, rewound time, brought people back to life, was one with the universe etc. It was his universe after all smile
That's still just feats of power and seems nothing outside of Manhattan's abilities. I'm saying, Manhattan was omnicient before the end of Watchmen. He pretty much knew the past and the future and everything in between. At least as far as I remember anyways, I gotta rebuy that comic, I lost it in a fire, haven't read it in years. Is Solar the same?

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Solar created Universes, rewound time, brought people back to life, was one with the universe etc. It was his universe after all smile


Shaping matter into a universe does not make you one with it Whirly. I could sculpt something out clay or my 5 year old sis could make a house out of lego but does that make either of us one with our work? Nope.


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That's still just feats of power and seems nothing outside of Manhattan's abilities. I'm saying, Manhattan was omnicient before the end of Watchmen. He pretty much knew the past and the future and everything in between. At least as far as I remember anyways, I gotta rebuy that comic, I lost it in a fire, haven't read it in years. Is Solar the same?


He could see timlines and predict probabilities accurately based on uncertainty principles, the only way precog could work, so yes, I guess he was.


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It is really hard to decide since these guys can literally do anything.

One thing that sets them apart is one thing, Solar cannot create life. There was a story written by Jurgens where Solar needed to evolve a planet to create a duplicate society from Earth, saying something on the lines "I cannot create something from nothing." Dr Manhattan at the end of the Watchmen, while walking in the sun, was thinking of creating life himself, like he never had doubt of doing so.

Solar by far has better energy manipulation powers but Dr Manhattan matter manipulating powers put the Silver Surfer into shame. So I am going to lean towards Dr Manhattan here.


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It is really hard to decide since these guys can literally do anything.

One thing that sets them apart is one thing, Solar cannot create life. There was a story written by Jurgens where Solar needed to evolve a planet to create a duplicate society from Earth, saying something on the lines "I cannot create something from nothing." Dr Manhattan at the end of the Watchmen, while walking in the sun, was thinking of creating life himself, like he never had doubt of doing so.

Solar by far has better energy manipulation powers but Dr Manhattan matter manipulating powers put the Silver Surfer into shame. So I am going to lean towards Dr Manhattan here.
great post

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Originally posted by Cameron Scott
It is really hard to decide since these guys can literally do anything.

One thing that sets them apart is one thing, Solar cannot create life. There was a story written by Jurgens where Solar needed to evolve a planet to create a duplicate society from Earth, saying something on the lines "I cannot create something from nothing." Dr Manhattan at the end of the Watchmen, while walking in the sun, was thinking of creating life himself, like he never had doubt of doing so.

Solar by far has better energy manipulation powers but Dr Manhattan matter manipulating powers put the Silver Surfer into shame. So I am going to lean towards Dr Manhattan here.


Manhatten never produced something from nothing either, howerver Cameron, Solar did create the Valiant Universe sooooooo.................

smile and everything in it - so Jurgens unusually for him = PIS


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