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lawest9
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Batman vs Luke Cage.

1. H2H
2. Bruce gets his weapons

Who wins?

Apr 28th, 2022 08:00 AM

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Bruce wins in both, without weapons.

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The only Batman's chance in h2h without his gear is pressure poits, which technically worked on Luke, but... Looks like he withstood it.

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"Technically", i.e. it worked.

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Apr 30th, 2022 08:46 PM

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Worked well enough to put him on his ass, yes, but that's not the same as scoring an actual knockout.

It's important, because that wasn't the only time Cage has showed *some* resistance to such attacks... unlike some Class 100 powerhouses such as Thor or Grundy.

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Bruce wins in both, without weapons.

What has you give Batman the first? Just pressure points or that's just part of it?

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luke becomes bruce's new biatch

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Worked well enough to put him on his ass, yes, but that's not the same as scoring an actual knockout.

It's important, because that wasn't the only time Cage has showed *some* resistance to such attacks... unlike some Class 100 powerhouses such as Thor or Grundy.

He made Luke completely freeze up, iirc. With his first nerve strike.

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What has you give Batman the first? Just pressure points or that's just part of it?

Yup. Maybe throw some esoteric skills in there if one wants, though that might stretch the definition of h2h (hypnosis or somesuch). Verrry unlikely to work on its own, though. Just throwing it in there.

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Apr 30th, 2022 09:11 PM

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Here's the scan. Where Luke has that weird pose, and asks what he's doing.

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Yes.

And here's the full scene in context - it wasn't a fight, just a misunderstanding between the two; there was a third party involved:

https://imgur.com/gallery/11mNG

And now some actual fight; pre-upgrade Luke getting hurt by the nerve strikes, only to recover in moments and restrain the villainess:

1. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...nts_on_cage.jpg
2. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...s_on_cage_2.jpg
3. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...s_on_cage_3.jpg

It's entirely possible that Luke may be legit KO'd this way - but it's not as easy as the contextless scene suggests.

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But the full album (that we took from the same source) doesn't contradict what I said.

The first nerve strike he used, Luke looks paralysed. We even know it affected him, as he is in shock and asks what BP did.

Did Luke recover and do anything after that BP scene? Note, too, that in the second scene you posted, Luke didn't want to undergo the pressure point attacks again.

Not to mention, Batman has better and more pressure point feats than that villainess.

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Yes.

And here's the full scene in context - it wasn't a fight, just a misunderstanding between the two; there was a third party involved:

https://imgur.com/gallery/11mNG

And now some actual fight; pre-upgrade Luke getting hurt by the nerve strikes, only to recover in moments and restrain the villainess:

1. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...nts_on_cage.jpg
2. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...s_on_cage_2.jpg
3. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...s_on_cage_3.jpg

It's entirely possible that Luke may be legit KO'd this way - but it's not as easy as the contextless scene suggests.

using a �yoga trance� to nearly stop his heartbeat, mid-fight in a single panel laughing out loud

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using a �yoga trance� to nearly stop his heartbeat, mid-fight in a single panel

Gotta love comics

Plus their entire fight was done in close quarter combat....but stopping his heart was the only way to get his opponent into striking distance....

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Could the other guy even pick up on vital signs? Or was he just busting out super yoga to show off to Daredevil.

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Iron Fist, such a flirt.

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But the full album (that we took from the same source) doesn't contradict what I said.

The first nerve strike he used, Luke looks paralysed. We even know it affected him, as he is in shock and asks what BP did.

He was definitely affected.

What I'm saying is that he was down, not out. And it's far easier doing the pressure point strikes in a non-fight scenario.

You can see him getting up and staring at BP pointing his index finger at him.

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Did Luke recover and do anything after that BP scene?

Other than being in the process of getting up and making eye-contact with BP, nothing else happened, as you know.

But it wasn't his intention to antagonize Panther or start a fight with him - as he tried to explain before the nerve pinch.

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Note, too, that in the second scene you posted, Luke didn't want to undergo the pressure point attacks again.

Yes, which shows they get some results - just far lesser than intended.

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Not to mention, Batman has better and more pressure point feats than that villainess.

Well, duh. That he does. Ninotchka has 4 appearances.

He also has a history of being humbled by low metas stick out tongue

And struggling with a certain character with a thick hide.

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I'm the last person on this forum that would want to defend Luke.

It needs to be said, however, that he isn't exactly as susceptible as some others.

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Plus their entire fight was done in close quarter combat....but stopping his heart was the only way to get his opponent into striking distance....

Welcome to the world of K'un-Lun bullshit that cdtm loves so much.

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I don't like modern cage, give me the fro and silk shirt in Times Square and that supporting cast anyday.

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Yes.

And here's the full scene in context - it wasn't a fight, just a misunderstanding between the two; there was a third party involved:

https://imgur.com/gallery/11mNG

And now some actual fight; pre-upgrade Luke getting hurt by the nerve strikes, only to recover in moments and restrain the villainess:

1. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...nts_on_cage.jpg
2. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...s_on_cage_2.jpg
3. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/up...s_on_cage_3.jpg

It's entirely possible that Luke may be legit KO'd this way - but it's not as easy as the contextless scene suggests.

Batman once fought StalnoiVolk (Russian supersoldier with an invincible skin, similar to Luke Cage) and stunned him with pressure points. Same about Bronze Tiger, who also successfully used pressure points and nerve strikes against him (although in their first fight StalnoiVolk grabbed Bronze Tiger and was ready to crush him, but Vixen interferred).

May 1st, 2022 02:37 PM

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