I'm not sure what the "Princess" reference is, but yeah at least in regard to Star Wars and recent MCU, greed and arrogance I think are major factors: "People will go see it no matter what, we don't have to fully think things out and really strive for quality here. We can continue to shovel out the save stock crap." Running out of major characters and ideas is also no doubt a big problem. I don't give a shit about Captain Marvel, for example.
The endless live-action remakes of their classic cartoons is also wreaking of lazy cash-grabbery.
(Side note: Oddly enough I actually kind of liked the Cinderella live action remake from 2015, but that was an actual filmmaker, Kenneth Branagh.)
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TFA was a better made film than the next 2, and didnt ruin any of the OG characters (although weird that Leia wasnt a Jedi, and if she secretly was then stupid she sent Han Solo to confront Kylo Ren). And id agree the new characters had potential at that point.
But the problem with the ST began with TFA. Member berries made them a crap ton of money as a one off but didnt do them any favours in starting a new trilogy. In fact im certain they werent thinking ahead.
It also made absolutely no sense as a sequel to ROTJ. But again those problems became more clear as the trilogy went on.
It's quite clear that the issue is not with the writers or directors because the quality of both is higher now that it was in phase 3 of the MCU. The issue is with the audiences of men and boys who have been brainwashed by Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson and Piers Morgan and Donald Trump and Elon Musk into becoming disgusting, right-wing, racist, misogynistic, hate filled, toxic scumbags who don't have the decency to go out to the movies and support films that weren't meant for them.
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I think this is true for some, I think for the rest of us Superhero fatigue and formulaic writing has set in. Like Scorsese, I want more than a roller coaster when I watch a film. I'd be more interested if Superhero films examined things like what life was like for the Superhero living in a human world.
The biggest issue with TFA was that instead of a balanced and new " new republic vs the villain", it just wanted to pick up the formula of "Rebels VS empire", so the new republic collapsed that easily, which, was stupid and undone EP4-6's effort.
Even the old republic had to take Palpatine decades to change to empire. Even the empire took the rebels years to finish off. The new republic simply died after a capital was blasted? And TLJ further nailed the coffin.
Yes so the main plot didn't make much sense if we actually think about it.
Like at the beginning of the movie while the New Republic was still there, why was a "Resistance" even needed? Could have simply tweaked it to the Republic Commandos or even the Intelligence agency, and Voila would have made make perfect sense. Should have been new tech and vehicles as well, like hybrid Empire/Rebels stuff, kind of like the Old Republic was. But like you said it was intended to be a sequel/reboot, like Superman Returns, where it's a sequel that's as much like the Original as possible in every possible way (especially the Look).
So at the time Audiences basically turned their brain off for that film and were just like "Yipee Star Wars is back, and we've got rid of that Blasphemer Lucas, and it's all Disney, so we will love this no matter what."
Having said that, I will admit it was a well directed film, and the new characters seemed exciting and had potential (at that point), so probably still the best of the trilogy (which is a pretty low bar).
He was great at the Plot, mythology and expanding the Universe (his imagination is unparalleled). But his films would have almost certainly been better if he didn't direct or write the script (even though he did for ANH which blew the world away in 1977).
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