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lawest9
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Darkseid True Form vs Living Tribunal

TFD exists in the multiverse and is on a practically omnipotent level, who wins here? No bfr.

Oct 18th, 2023 01:56 PM

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What does true form even mean? Does he have feats in that form?

Oct 18th, 2023 08:00 PM

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What does true form even mean? Does he have feats in that form?

DC boys can't even agree on what his actual "true form" really is, lol. It changes from story arc to story arc, from fan to fan.

For me, this is True Darkseid:

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Hulk wins. Hulk always wins.

Oct 19th, 2023 01:54 AM

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DC boys can't even agree on what his actual "true form" really is, lol. It changes from story arc to story arc, from fan to fan.

For me, this is True Darkseid:

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Oct 19th, 2023 09:33 PM

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This has got to be troll thread in the wake of Dark Crisis.

Darkseid True Form couldn't even kill Superboy in a 6v1 fight assisted by Doomsday, Neron, Nekron, Eclipso, Ares.

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This has got to be troll thread in the wake of Dark Crisis.

Darkseid True Form couldn't even kill Superboy in a 6v1 fight assisted by Doomsday, Neron, Nekron, Eclipso, Ares.

He was weakened, no?

Oct 20th, 2023 02:29 AM

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dark crisis was truly jobbing of the century

spectre and raven punching the crap out of each other in the background, it was a sight to behold

imagine rounding up dc's cosmic big bads in history and let them fist fight teen titans, that's literally what happened in the that event

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spectre and raven punching the crap out of each other in the background, it was a sight to behold

Just concerning this part. I think in Dark Crisis: War Zone actually shows the Spectre owning Raven casually despite her best efforts. And Spectre was just toying with Raven
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Oct 20th, 2023 02:44 AM

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imagine rounding up dc's cosmic big bads in history and let them fist fight teen titans, that's literally what happened in the that event

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He was weakened, no?

Ok, let's run with that.

So was True Form Multiversal Darkseid weakened to half-multiversal levels of power? 500-million universe levels of power? 100-million universes levels of power? Abstract, single-universal levels of power? Skyfather levels of power? Trans level of power? High herald levels of power?

I mean... he couldnt' kill Superboy in an extended 6v1 fight assisted by Doomsday, Neron, Nekron, Eclipso, Ares.

So you guys tell me how weakened he was from his True Form Multiversal Darkseid levels of power during Dark Crisis

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Oct 20th, 2023 02:53 AM

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Ok, let's run with that.

So was True Form Multiversal Darkseid weakened to half-multiversal levels of power? 500-million universe levels of power? 100-million universes levels of power? Abstract, single-universal levels of power? Skyfather levels of power? Trans level of power? High herald levels of power?

I mean... he couldnt' kill Superboy in an extended 6v1 fight assisted by Doomsday, Neron, Nekron, Eclipso, Ares.

So you guys tell me how weakened he was from his True Form Multiversal Darkseid levels of power during Dark Crisis

That's some red herring or shifting the burden of proof TBH.
He was weakened to what point? Well, to the point that you said here. But we couldn't say how powerful he is when he isn't weakened. I don't think this is hard to understand.

Plus, in Justice League (2018) 75, Empty Hand also failed to kill either Black Adam or Hawkgirl. And last time I checked, you seem to have a very high opinions on him
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Revisiting this list:

1) Great Darkness a.k.a. Great Evil Beast, Pralaya, Mother Night
2) Presence a.k.a. the Source, the Voice, the Overvoid, Father Time
3) Endless a.k.a. Death + Destiny + Dream + Destruction + Desire + Despair + Delirium
4) Life Equation/Miracle Machine
5) Anti-Life Equation
6) The Empty Hand/The Gentry
7) Cosmic Raptor
8) The Hands/Perpetua/Ultra-Monitor
9) Mxy/Batmite
10) Anti-Crisis Wonder Woman
11) Dr. Manhattan/Darkest Knight a.k.a Batman Who Laughs (final form)
12) Anti-Monitor a.k.a. Mobius/World Forger a.k.a. Alpheus/Monitor a.k.a Mar Novu
13) Barbatos
14) Hecate/Upside Down Man
15) Cosmic Armor Superman
16) Mandrakk
17) Basanos/Elaine Belloc
18) Lucifer/Michael
19) The Entity a.k.a. White Light of Creation/Nekron/Umbrax
20) Power of the Guardians a.k.a. Ion (conglomerated)
21) The Speed Force/The Still Force
22) Quantum Field
23) Worlogog
24) Volthoom a.k.a the First Lantern
25) Parallax/Predator/Ophidion/Butcher/Adara/Proselyte
26) The Green/The Red/The Clear/The Grey/The Black a.k.a the Rot

You guys think it's more or less accurate than it's previous iteration? Notably, I removed the Godwave because its placement kinda makes no sense in the current DC continuity. The Godwave supposedly gave rise to Speedforce, Quantum Field, even the Power of the Guardians. But per Highfather, it started it's spread 40k years ago per its own storyline. That just doesn't fly now.

You guys think the following entities deserve a spot on the list: Ultimator, Time Trapper, the Phantom Lantern, Anti-Life Entity, Fuginauts, Omega Titans, Krona, Imperiex, Phantom Stranger, Kismet, Lords of Chaos/Order?

Oct 20th, 2023 03:07 AM

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We see Darkseid's true form at his full power in Infinite Frontier and Justice League Incarnate. Probably one of the most overrated characters in DC.

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Oct 20th, 2023 04:21 AM

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We see Darkseid's true form at his full power in Infinite Frontier and Justice League Incarnate. Probably one of the most overrated characters in DC.

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How's it overrated when his opponent is living jobber himself lol

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because LT never jobbed as bad as darkseid even at his lowest

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DC boys can't even agree on what his actual "true form" really is, lol. It changes from story arc to story arc, from fan to fan.

For me, this is True Darkseid:

I thought True Form Darkseid is what happens if you go to the beach and fall asleep and forget to roll over and even out the tan.

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Ok, let's run with that.

So was True Form Multiversal Darkseid weakened to half-multiversal levels of power? 500-million universe levels of power? 100-million universes levels of power? Abstract, single-universal levels of power? Skyfather levels of power? Trans level of power? High herald levels of power?

I mean... he couldnt' kill Superboy in an extended 6v1 fight assisted by Doomsday, Neron, Nekron, Eclipso, Ares.

So you guys tell me how weakened he was from his True Form Multiversal Darkseid levels of power during Dark Crisis

Imagine him fighting Anti Monitor.

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Maybe True Form Darkseid is all the friends that we made along the way

Oct 20th, 2023 05:33 AM

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Imagine him fighting Anti Monitor.

Or how he one-shots the Quintessence(including Highfather, Ganthet, Spectre, Phantom Stranger, Wizard Shazam)

Oct 20th, 2023 05:36 AM

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Maybe True Form Darkseid is all the friends that we made along the way

Maybe True Form Darkseid was what Stoic was always talking about.....we are all, 'true form dark side'.

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Maybe True Form Darkseid is my bagel if I dial the toaster knob up to 11

Oct 20th, 2023 06:19 AM

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