Hancock gets plugged into the matrix. He retains all his powers (and limits) in the matrix. He faces Neo. Can Neo beat Hancock or is this too much for him and will he face death?
Hancock has far greater brute lifting strength but he's not particularly fast by any feat we see onscreen and no striking force feat he has matches up to Neo's clashes with Smith in Revolutions. Neo also is obviously much more skilled as a fighter.
If Hancock has all his powers, then he is invulnerable/immortal unless his wife shows up. He also has demonstrated far more strength than Neo and his train feat outdoes any combined result of Neo and Smith fighting.
He didn't move an inch when several hundred tons of freight train slammed into him and he lowered his shoulder. The impact was so jarring that every single train car derailed for the entirety of the train. Neo's only better at fighting, and has slightly better reaction speed from the bullet dodge in the first movie, but then again he's fought tons of people who are not faster than bullets and he isn't a blur to them so it seems situational. Hancock slapped an RPG round away and can move faster than the eye can follow as well as fly to the moon and back so he's insanely fast when he wants to be.
Hancock painted the moon. Even if it took him multiple days to add enough coats of paint or whatever it was to be seen from Earth it would still put him pretty far into the speedster range.
I don't think it took him multiple days. When Ray looked up and was completely surprised, that made it seem like it was an extremely quick process. Like there was no way he wouldn't have noticed on his own over the course of several days.
Unless Neo's allowed to manipulate Hancock and remove his powers or weaken them sufficiently, he's not physically strong enough to hurt Hancock, so Neo's mastery of all martial arts won't matter.
So aside from that, Neo's head is going up Neo's ass.
edit: Been years since I've watched the Matric films, so I might be forgetting some strength feat that is strong enough to hurt Hancock?
P1: Hancock, while fast, is significantly slower than a bullet.
P2: Neo perceives bullets in slow motion, meaning he would perceive Hancock as slower than bullets.
P3: Neo, despite his strength, is not strong enough to harm Hancock.
P4: Neo would eventually tire, grow hungry, or age before Hancock does.
C: Therefore, Hancock would win the battle of attrition after a prolonged stalemate.
Neo manipulating the Matrix to see bullets in slow-motion doesn't really apply to combat since he's fought dozens of people who are far slower than bullets and they still land hits. In Matrix he fought Smith and the other Agents who aren't as fast as bullets in a fight even if they can dodge them. In Reloaded he fought the Werewolves who worked for the Merovingian, etc...
Also Hancock has shown he can move faster than the human eye can perceive and is fast enough to reach escape velocity so he is faster than a bullet when he wants to be.
Just for shots and giggles to think about it. Have any of you done any serious housepainting before?
Because if we got serious into thinking about it, he had to transport all that paint which would either multiply that speed feat if he made several trips, or one helluva strength feat (way beyond the whale) to somehow carry it in one load.
And then he is gonna have to use several coats, like a shitload of coats and wait on each one to dry etc...
If someone did the math( not enough info I'm sure) I would put money down that it would put him around Flash level speed.
But regardless, unless Neo can hit multiple times harder than a multi car train slamming into someone then there is really nothing he can do with his superior fighting skills like Robtard said.
It's a shame imo, but Hancock wins. Of course neo would land powerful hits which would feel like way more than butterfly kisses to Hancock, but the only strength feat I can remember is when Neo effortlessly used Agent Smith as a weapon to beat up other Agent Smiths. Still, according to movies vs logic, neo does indeed exhaust himself giving Hancock a barrage of butterfly kisses. Unless I'm forgetting a scene...
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