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Re: The sabre fights, which is the best?
Originally posted by Jedi-Kaisa
I personally think Yoda vs. Sidious was the best. It had everything, flips, lightsabres and force throwing senatorial pods across the arena.
It had everything except for two people actually fighting, it was all fake.
Anakin vs. Obi-Wan, the incredible emotion of this duel(and the fact you know what happens) and crazy speed.
Re: The sabre fights, which is the best?
Originally posted by Jedi-Kaisa
I'll be surprised if someone hasn't thought of this before...Big selection huh? ๐
I personally think Yoda vs. Sidious was the best. It had everything, flips, lightsabres and force throwing senatorial pods across the arena. ๐ฑ Gotta love it ๐
Kenobi VS Skywalker
The most emotional Star Wars duel ever.
And one of the best.
Durl of the Fates. The more I watch the Obi/Ani duel the more I don't like it. It seems pointless. A duel for duelling's sake. I try, but I just can't find the emotion everyone talks about...
The Episode I duel - while also being the best coreographed - is indeed exactly a duel for duel's sake and it knows that it is, which is why it's so great. Better to have no emotion at all than to pretend to have some...
The Episode II duels can eat anteater testicles. Horrible, horrible, horrible.
Yoda looks like a fool whenever he takes out his saber. Bad move Georgie. He's too good for a saber. You killed Yoda for me. Same for Sidious, he never needed to use a saber... he was cooler when he just had the lightning.
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Durl of the Fates. The more I watch the Obi/Ani duel the more I don't like it. It seems pointless. A duel for duelling's sake. I try, but I just can't find the emotion everyone talks about...
That is cool, the effect does wear off, though I do still like the core duel. As far as emotion, on that first night, even after knowing all the spoilers, when it started I was like "oh shit, here it goes". And I kept that feeling up until I saw Obi jump onto the back, then I got real sad knowing Anakin was dead. ๐
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
Durl of the Fates. The more I watch the Obi/Ani duel the more I don't like it. It seems pointless. A duel for duelling's sake. I try, but I just can't find the emotion everyone talks about...The Episode I duel - while also being the best coreographed - is indeed exactly a duel for duel's sake and it knows that it is, which is why it's so great. Better to have no emotion at all than to pretend to have some...
The Episode II duels can eat anteater testicles. Horrible, horrible, horrible.
Yoda looks like a fool whenever he takes out his saber. Bad move Georgie. He's too good for a saber. You killed Yoda for me. Same for Sidious, he never needed to use a saber... he was cooler when he just had the lightning.
Absolutely share those sentiments.
Duel of the Fates was the best duel in the prequel the more and more I think about it. yes, that first time watching Anakin and Obi-Wan was something else. But even then I noticed how pretenuous it was. Duel of Fates is not about betrayal; it's about "I'mma kill you, white". Erm... I -think- that's what Maul was saying at one point.
Anyways, and I also agree that Yoda and Sidious should never have used sabers. It ruined both of their characters, which were already developed and made likeable in an age of non-kung fu BS.
As short as it was I particularly liked the Obi-Wan/Dooku in AOTC because a) Dooku's taunting (which if it included his missing dialogue from the book would have been even greater), b) Dooku was so good all of Obi-wan's moves were easily and effortlessly countered, and c) because of the scene where the two locked sabers. Sure Obi-wan is young and stronger, and because of it was able to force Dooku's saber back, but because Dooku is older and more experienced, he waited for the right moment for Obi-wan's lightsaber to reach a certain vantage point, and then he struck, completely taking Obi-wan by surprise. Still love that scene.
Re: Re: The sabre fights, which is the best?
Originally posted by Ast
It had everything except for two people actually fighting, it was all fake.
Exactly. You can do practically anything when fighting a CG....thing. And using CG can make a whole lot of things come to reality. But I'm 14 and that's only me
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
At the midnight showing I went to the fat man sitting next to me screamed like a little girl when Yoda started fighting...I couldn't stop rolling my eyes...
The worst part about that fight is that more than half the time Dooku is just slashing at nothing. It is incredibly poorly done.
That was the point. Yoda was too fast for him.
I can't believe I don't like the Ani-Obi duel!
Why? What the hell? How did this happen? Why don't I like the duel that I've been waiting most of my life to see?
It was just too overblown. I was expecting a fight on par with Vader and Luke on Bespin, but in reverse. I was hoping for Obi-Wan to be more innocent and Anakin more evil and lost. Obi-Wan gave up too quickly and even started the damn fight (or it was put across that way).
They really should have had Obi-Wan going to help Anakin, talk him round - not going to kill him. It's like Obi-Wan was like "He's evil, oh well, better go kill him then". The friendship was barely even there, despite Obi-Wans bizarre claims of Anakin being like his brother. The way he left Anakin on the bank was also too wierd. It was just clumsy and there seemed to be no consideration of the characters. Instead it was just a flashy duel that resembled a videogame-boss fight. I thought it was just a waste. I so wanted it to be great.
DAMMIT!
The Duel of the Fates, by a hair over Anakin vs. Obi-Wan, followed by Yoda vs. Sidious. The latter two are the most emotionally charged and had me gripped, but from a skill and tactics level its Ep.I - the newness of a double-end lightsaber, 2 vs. 1 yet fought brillantly by Darth Maul, up and down levels and different settings; also knowing Anakin's fate turned on this outcome. Qui-Gon lives, he trains Anakin and things are likely very different!
Originally posted by Red Superfly
I can't believe I don't like the Ani-Obi duel!Why? What the hell? How did this happen? Why don't I like the duel that I've been waiting most of my life to see?
It was just too overblown. I was expecting a fight on par with Vader and Luke on Bespin, but in reverse. I was hoping for Obi-Wan to be more innocent and Anakin more evil and lost. Obi-Wan gave up too quickly and even started the damn fight (or it was put across that way).
They really should have had Obi-Wan going to help Anakin, talk him round - not going to kill him. It's like Obi-Wan was like "He's evil, oh well, better go kill him then". The friendship was barely even there, despite Obi-Wans bizarre claims of Anakin being like his brother. The way he left Anakin on the bank was also too wierd. It was just clumsy and there seemed to be no consideration of the characters. Instead it was just a flashy duel that resembled a videogame-boss fight. I thought it was just a waste. I so wanted it to be great.
DAMMIT!
At the end of the duel I want to cry... not because of the emotion, but because of the fact it should have been so much better...
Honestly, I don't know why I expected anything different. Right from the beginning they were promoting the fight as being the best ever, longest ever, covering the most distance ever... When they should have been focussing on the emotional aspect.
Damn you Lucas for becoming a commercial filmbitch!!!
The emotion is not in the duel until Obi-Wan says "I have failed you Anakin, I have failed you." Then they start to converse and it gets emotional right to the end of the duel when Ani gets burned. Duel of Fates is best, a) Qui-Gon Jinn!!, b) first time we really see what Obi-Wan is made of, c) the fight it's just awesome.
True dat PR, I was like 9 or 10, I forgot, but seeing Qui-Gon go down always made me sad. Especially when maul knocks his saber into Qui-Gon's chin, you can see in his eyes he knows he's gonna go down, and Obi's noo was perfect, not like that shit vader's noooo.
Originally posted by Ast
That is cool, the effect does wear off, though I do still like the core duel. As far as emotion, on that first night, even after knowing all the spoilers, when it started I was like "oh shit, here it goes". And I kept that feeling up until I saw Obi jump onto the back, then I got real sad knowing Anakin was dead. ๐
I thought the same way too. When they both ignited their sabers, I gripped my armrests and every muscle in my body tightened. Y'know, it's like that feeling you get when you're going out with the schools hottest chick, but better. Then I was soo pissed at the end, mainly because no more SW movies to go to. But also because of the abruptness of "THE DUEL". And those two damned old geezers kept butting in with their little saber fest and throwing stuff like a drunken husband who found out his wife has been having sex with the milkman and the postman for the past 20 years.