Originally posted by I am a Sock
At the Battle of the Black Gate, I heard that it's not possible for someone to see barad-dur from there. Can anyone confirm this?
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heres another
In the book frodo doesnt leave sam
in the book frodos naked in ungol
in the book sam and frodo face shelob
in the book they never go to osgiliath
in the book a troll lands on pipin outside the black gate
in the book thedoen is killed by his horse landing on him after being killed by a dart, in the film its just---an attack
In the book saruman dies
in the book the palantir is thrown not found in water.
in the book isengard is described a a perfectly smooth surfaced building, no ent could get a grip of, in the film it has all sorts of sticky out bits...
ah great points chris my man,
some of these points could be sort of cleared,
"you can't go trecking through Mordor in not but you're skin" says Sam to Frodo in Ungol......doubt they would let Eilijah be naked 😆
The Horses don't leave Aragorn,Legolas & Gimli at the Demolt, they infact have to use them again for a 200 odd mile hike through the mountain
also in the book Rider of Rohan must pass through a mountain
I think the horses were too scared to even go near a Mamikul at Pelennor.
There are so much things changed.
another obvious one was how the hobbits encountered their swords, I mean why would a Ranger be carrying exactly 4 hobbit sized swords 😬
Discos - very much wanted to see Bambadil weep
Oooo these are all very fascinating, i was wondering about the sword thing, maybe aragorn knew he was gonna meet up with the hobbits, LOL!
And im sure they wouldnt let elijah be fully naked in the film, although he is half naked, with no shirt, but he has pants on (damnit)
AND ive noticed in fellowship when aragorn and arwen are talking on the bridge with one another, and there is a far away shot of them, after aragorn says "i fell into a dream" or something like that, keep an eye out on arwen, you see her mouth moving when its not even her speaking part, maybe she was helping viggo out on some elvish by mouthing it to him, but its really hard to catch, you have to look hard
AND for the love, i still cant find it, on the cast commentry of fellowship, you hear elijah mention seeing him move back into frame right after they all wake up in the prancing pony after hearing the nazgul scream, i have rewinded and rewinded that part and i cant seem to see it, he says its quick, and ive tried to see it, and i cant see it, AND the boo boo with the horse magically coming out in the middle of the tree in fellowship, i dont see that either, lol
Here's some chnages from book to movie in FotR
Right at the start of the film we see a somewhat simplified story of the battle that sees Isildur win the Ring from Sauron. In the original story, the battle takes place outside Mordor, and Sauron's forces are defeated. There follows a seven-year siege of Sauron in his Dark Tower. Eventually, Sauron is overcome not by Isildur himself, but by his father Elendil and the Elvenking Gil-galad, who are both slain. Isildur then cuts the Ring from Sauron's body.
As you'd expect, time and space are generally rather compressed in the film. For example, in an early scene Gandalf leaves Frodo for Minas Tirith, reads the Scroll of Isildur, and in no time at all we see him back at Bag End. If you didn't know better, you might easily imagine that Minas Tirith was just round the corner from the Shire! In fact, the city is 1,100 miles from Bag End by road. Between the first scene in Bag End and the next, a period of seventeen years passed, and Gandalf did far more in this time than just read a Scroll!
One of the oddest changes from the book is that Sauron doesn't have a body; Saruman tells Gandalf that he isn't yet able to 'take physical form'. It's hard to see how this could be true - what use would the Ring be to Sauron, if he didn't have a finger to wear it on? The book makes it very clear that he does have a physical form - 'He has only four [fingers] on the Black Hand, but they are enough', says Gollum in The Two Towers, and this is confirmed explicitly by Tolkien among his letters. Actually, this does seem to be a misinterpretation rather than a deliberate change, because Peter Jackson has himself described Sauron in at least one interview as being no more than a floating eyeball.
In the film, we see the four Hobbits escape across the Brandywine at Bucklebury Ferry on a dark night. In the next scene, still in the dark, they knock on the gates of Bree. Despite appearances, though, Bree is not just across the Brandywine river - it's seventy-five miles away. The book takes four chapters to describe the Hobbits' adventures on the journey, including a trip through the Old Forest, a meeting with the mysterious Tom Bombadil and a very close shave indeed among the Barrow-downs.
Moving straight from the Ferry to Bree introduces an awkward inconsistency, because it was during their adventures in the Barrow-downs that the Hobbits acquired their weapons. To fill this gap, we have Aragorn producing a satchel of short swords on Amon Sûl, though the film doesn't attempt to explain how he got his hands on this convenient selection of hobbit-sized weaponry.
Arwen's role has been greatly expanded in the film. In the book, Aragorn and the Hobbits are aided by a golden-haired Elf named Glorfindel, not by Arwen, and the flood that saves Frodo from the Black Riders is the work of Elrond and Gandalf.
The film tells us that Aragorn has renounced his Kingship, but in the book he does no such thing. He is acknowledged leader of his people, the Northern Dúnedain, and by virtue of being Isildur's Heir has the right to claim the throne of Gondor. That he hasn't done so yet doesn't mean he doesn't intend to.
In the book, there are not two but three Wizards; the third, Radagast the Brown, has been removed from the film. He plays only a small part in the story, but he's important in that he unknowingly arranges for Gandalf's escape from Orthanc by sending the Eagle Gwaihir. With no Radagast in the film, Gandalf has to arrange his own escape, by sending a message to Gwaihir by moth.
In the book, when the Fellowship attempt the Redhorn Pass, they are most likely beaten back by the ill will of Caradhras itself, or just possibly through the power of Sauron; the film shows Saruman causing their difficulties instead.
In the book, Saruman bred Men and Orcs to create creatures known as Half-orcs or Goblin-men, and this has led some to associate him with the origins of the Uruk-hai too. This is in fact not correct; Uruks are full Orcs of a particularly powerful and deadly kind, and originated in Mordor about five hundred years before the story begins. The film chooses to make Saruman their creator, but it isn't clear whether this is intentional departure from the book, or a simple mistake.
Lurtz, the Uruk chieftain who shoots Boromir and is in turn slain by Aragorn, is entirely an invention of the film-makers. No such character appears anywhere in the book. He does seem to be quite compatible with the story, though. In fact, if the film version of the The Two Towers follows the book of the same name, we'll see his Orc-band arguing and fighting among themselves, which would make sense if they'd lost their leader in battle.