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He can't beat him in a fistfight, but Juggernaut can't beat Apoc in a fistfight either. Apocalypse's shapeshifting will give more than enough ability to get the helmet off. Of course Juggernaut can turtle and hide behind his forcefield, but he's battling in character. So he'll do what he always does. He'll charge in, head-on, with no concern for anything. Apocalypse will yank the helmet off and then crush him telepathically. Or he can blast it off, or turn his arms into crowbars, etc, etc, etc. Juggernaut cannot win this, he has no means of stopping Apocalypse from taking his helmet, so what does it matter if Apocalypse can't physically hurt him? Cain's weakest point has always been his mind.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He can't beat him in a fistfight, but Juggernaut can't beat Apoc in a fistfight either. Apocalypse's shapeshifting will give more than enough ability to get the helmet off. Of course Juggernaut can turtle and hide behind his forcefield, but he's battling in character. So he'll do what he always does. He'll charge in, head-on, with no concern for anything. Apocalypse will yank the helmet off and then crush him telepathically. Or he can blast it off, or turn his arms into crowbars, etc, etc, etc. Juggernaut cannot win this, he has no means of stopping Apocalypse from taking his helmet, so what does it matter if Apocalypse can't physically hurt him? Cain's weakest point has always been his mind.
All he would have to do is you know, knock him out. Before you start saying "Apoc has complete control over his molecular structure, he can become harder", Apoc has never been invulnerable to physical harm.
Whats Cain doing while Apoc is shapshifting and turning his arms into crowbars?
NEVERMIND. Disregard everything I said. Classic Apoc would have no trouble winning this match. Current Apocalypse is a jobber and not worthy of the name. Read the respect thread and see how good Classic Apocalypse is. and how far he has fallen since....... ❌
Edit: the field will not prevent the helmet being ripped out unless he's using it. But then he can't attack and it's basically a stalemate. But he's in character, so he won't use it unless he thinks he needs it.