Originally posted by batdude123
Vargas gets shit stomped.
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Those scans prove very little, The U-Foes took Hulk by surprise, and Vapors unique abilities are how they won.... why not show scans of The Hulk trouncing them when it wasn't a sneak attack? Vargas prepped would beat the hell out of them. Unless you can show me a weakness that Vargas has that could be exploited by the U-Foes, there really is no evidence that any of their attacks are more potent than Rogue holding onto Vargas for dear life. Vargas has amazing endurance,and it showed when he nearly killed the X-Men.
Hulk and the U-Foes have exchanged wins, but I find it commical that your even attempting to put Vargas on Hulk;s level as their a Hulk level threat. Hell Vector reflected reality at one time 😬
Does Vargas need to breath? Yes, so Vapour can attack inside. Can he take the punishment Professor Hulk took when Vector reduced him to a practically a skelton? Definetly not 😬
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hulk and the U-Foes have exchanged wins, but I find it commical that your even attempting to put Vargas on Hulk;s level as their a Hulk level threat. Hell Vector reflected reality at one time 😬Does Vargas need to breath? Yes, so Vapour can attack inside. Can he take the punishment Professor Hulk took when Vector reduced him to a practically a skelton? Definetly not 😬
Vargas' level has never been determined, but from the way he cut a building down as easily as you or I could destroy a sand castle would indicate that he could wipe the floor with Ironclad at the very least.
Let me correct you for a second, they were a Hulk level threat, now they are an X-Men level threat.. don't believe me? Post a vs thread called... X-Men vs U-Foes and find out. Vargas was able to nearly kill the entire team with such ease that it was almost scary. Rogue was the PIS that brought him down.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Vargas' level has never been determined, but from the way he cut a building down as easily as you or I could destroy a sand castle would indicate that he could wipe the floor with Ironclad at the very least.Let me correct you for a second, they were a Hulk level threat, now they are an X-Men level threat.. don't believe me? Post a vs thread called... X-Men vs U-Foes and find out. Vargas was able to nearly kill the entire team with such ease that it was almost scary. Rogue was the PIS that brought him down.
Iron Clad is even debatable, but the rest of the U-Foes? not a chance
Ummm...what? soooo basically you really don't know what your talking about do you? Why are they an X-Men threat now, show me why the bump
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Iron Clad is even debatable, but the rest of the U-Foes? not a chanceUmmm...what? soooo basically you really don't know what your talking about do you? Why are they an X-Men threat now, show me why the bump
When I say that they were a Hulk level threat, what i meant was that they wouldn't last 10 minutes against the latest WWHulk. Which is why I put them on the X-Mens level if that, and we all saw how well The X-Men did against The Hulk. Vargas being able to resist Rogue and Psylocks powers may indicate that he could be equally as resistant to the U-Foes powerset.
I know fully well what I am speaking of. Perhaps it is you that is underestmating Vargas... Where in X-Treme X-Men, when Vargas made his appearance did you see a weakness that anyone on the U-Foes could exploit? If it weren't for Rogues unique abilities Vargas would have killed them all, which would have placed Vargas on a level that may not be as high a WWHulks but it would not be too far behind.
Of course they wouldn't last against WWH, but would Vargas? No, so why even bring it up? Or do you generally think Vargas can take it to WWH? Because WWH would beat them that automatically make them X-Men level? Errrr?
Yeah I saw him fight and he killed Psylocke which shocked them, but have you seen what the U-foes have done? especially Vector? 😬
Vargas didn't really fight the whole team he only took on Rogue, Beast and Betsy.He took Rogue by suprise and hit her from behind and didn't really give her anytime to recover.He also had two of his henchmen with him that betsy took out while Vargas fought beast he did take a full powered tk blast from betsy with seemingly no effect before he killed her though.Storm, Bishop, and Neal showed up when everything was over.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Of course they wouldn't last against WWH, but would Vargas? No, so why even bring it up? Or do you generally think Vargas can take it to WWH? Because WWH would beat them that automatically make them X-Men level? Errrr?Yeah I saw him fight and he killed Psylocke which shocked them, but have you seen what the U-foes have done? especially Vector? 😬
Mungi you do realize that this is going to go no where fast right? Firstly Vargas only has high end showings that "seems" to place him at top tier, he has shown insane resistances to powers that have stopped Thor in his tracks (Rogues touch) to presume that Vectors powers could affect him would at best be a guess on either of our parts. Vargas has Superhuman speed who says Vector would see past 30 seconds??? You see what i mean? Until we see more of what Vargas is and his power limits he may just be able to go a few rounds with the Hulk.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Mungi you do realize that this is going to go no where fast right? Firstly Vargas only has high end showings that "seems" to place him at top tier, he has shown insane resistances to powers that have stopped Thor in his tracks (Rogues touch) to presume that Vectors powers could affect him would at best be a guess on either of our parts. Vargas has Superhuman speed who says Vector would see past 30 seconds??? You see what i mean? Until we see more of what Vargas is and his power limits he may just be able to go a few rounds with the Hulk.
He was resistant to rogue's touch not immune she was still able to absorb his powers in thier final fight.Also he is has enhanced Agility and Reflexe's not super speed.I dont really see what he is gonna do to hurt vapor or stop her from doing to him what she did to hulk.
