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Have we ever rated weapons/devices by tier?

You know, trans, high/herald, street etc.?

Just wondering.
It'd probably be harder than doing characters.

Like:
Captain America shield

Batman utility belt

Spider-man web shooters

Thor hammer

Hercules mace

Brainiac 5 force field belt

A mother box

The ebony blade

The eye of agomotto


Those are just random picks. But being inanimate objects (more or less) how would you class them? Offense? Defense? Indestructibility? Variety of powers?
Any input will be appreciated.


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Re: Have we ever rated weapons/devices by tier?

Captain America shield- super durable, but isn't inherently useful (street)

Batman utility belt- some good gadgets, but again not great 99% of the time for just anyone

Spider-man web shooters- need super strength to use, but very useful if you can (mid-meta)

Thor hammer- if you're worth, you're now a HH.

Hercules mace- not sure on its usefulness to a normal person.

Brainiac 5 force field belt. You can now stall but without something else it's futile

A mother box- see Mjoinir

The ebony blade- great weapon, similar to Cap's shield

The eye of agomotto- see Mjoinir

Lanterns + Ring- see Mjoinir

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Thanks, both of you.
Interesting way to look at these things.


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Re: Re: Have we ever rated weapons/devices by tier?

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The ebony blade- great weapon, similar to Cap's shield

Agree with your list except for this. It's in no way "street".

Like Captain America's shield, you can use it to deflect physical attacks. Unlike Captain America's shield you can use it to absorb and redirect energy attacks : mystic, power cosmic, etc.. up to at least Skyfather level.

The sword is powerful enough to wound and even kill extremely powerful beings up to at least Skyfather level.

The sword has more sinister properties if you give in to it's curse, see Bloodwraith.


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Re: Have we ever rated weapons/devices by tier?

Captain America shield, 12 durability, High Trans

Batman utility belt, 4, Low Meta

Spider-man web shooters, 6 High Meta

Thor hammer, 15, High Skyfather

Hercules mace, 13 Low Skyfather

Brainiac 5 force field belt, 12 High Trans

A mother box, 15 High Skyfather

The ebony blade, 14 Mid Skyfather as far as i know

The eye of agomotto, 14 Mid Skyfather as far as I know


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The Starbrand - High Herald - Sky Father: Depending on the user is what I'm going with until it is more thoroughly fleshed out. However the Starbrand is dependent on the users imagination. Limits are unknown.

Quantum Bands - Mid Herald - High Cosmic: Much like the Starbrand it has been seen to increase the power of even a High Herald being like the Silver Surfer, which granted him the power of a High Cosmic.

Uni Power - *See Starbrand* The Uni Power adds Cosmic Awareness to it's user but what differs between the Starbrand and the Uni Power is that the Uni Power is an aspect of the Enigma Force which was described to be the personification of the Universe. Power Level: High Herald - High Cosmic.

The Ultimate Nullifier - Universal threat level: This weapon can be as deadly to its user as it can be to its victim.


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Stoic, you and the Professor are giving me what i'd hoped for as to breakdowns.

I just have to figure out where things like WWs lasso/bracers, Surfer's board, and Ant man's helmet go...


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Stoic, you and the Professor are giving me what i'd hoped for as to breakdowns.

I just have to figure out where things like WWs lasso/bracers, Surfer's board, and Ant man's helmet go...


I would rank them either by how powerful the creator was or what max powerful being it can really hurt or be destroyed by.

CA Shield was broken by Skyfathers, thus i would rate it at High Trans levels. Mjolnir was broken by Abstracts and resisted Odin a Skyfather, so Skyfather etc.

WW Lasso would be Mid to High Skyfather imo.

Surfers board would be High Trans.

Ant Mans helmet, I don't know what it can do tbh, I would guess Mid Meta.


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Surfers board high trans?

Cosmic control rod: high trans, not only does it works like mjolnir without the worthiness hinge so youd need to keep it close or swallow it. Also controls the annihilation wave which gives u an expendable army at your beck n call.

Wreckers crow bar..: mjolnir light id place it at mid herald maybe high if it had a competant user

Helmut of nabu...trans but youre no longer yourself which sucks but it increases stats exponentially.


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Where would Midnighter's battle pc go?


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^^^thats a good one.


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Originally posted by The Nuul
Where would Midnighter's battle pc go?


Mid meta kinda like spidermans precog


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Uni Power - *See Starbrand* The Uni Power adds Cosmic Awareness to it's user but what differs between the Starbrand and the Uni Power is that the Uni Power is an aspect of the Enigma Force which was described to be the personification of the Universe. Power Level: High Herald - High Cosmic.


But it's sentient, hardly an "object"


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Re: Re: Re: Have we ever rated weapons/devices by tier?

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Agree with your list except for this. It's in no way "street".

Like Captain America's shield, you can use it to deflect physical attacks. Unlike Captain America's shield you can use it to absorb and redirect energy attacks : mystic, power cosmic, etc.. up to at least Skyfather level.

The sword is powerful enough to wound and even kill extremely powerful beings up to at least Skyfather level.

The sword has more sinister properties if you give in to it's curse, see Bloodwraith.


But those are soecific circumstances its not like the sword can harm skyfathers who dont energy blast it first.

Other examlles are Dr Occult's disk of the seven. It can absorb and redirect energy (both magic and natural (. He's used it to gran Hal Jordans soul enough magical energy from himself, Phantom stranger, Zataņa , Xanadu and a few oth ers to make him a match for spectre. Does that really make the disk trans?. It can't produce that level of effect reliably only in the presence of that level.

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Has anyone mentioned the twilight sword? Nega bands, odinsword, excalibur, destroyer armor...theres an ass ton of weapons out there


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But it's sentient, hardly an "object"


Aren't the GL rings semi sentient as well? I guess that it would depend on a persons perspective as to what they believe that a weapon is. If I were to judge the Uni Power, I would call it a weapon. A very sophisticated one, but one all the same. What about Mother Boxes? Aren't they sentient?

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Destroyer Construct - High Trans - Low Cosmic.

Aegis Armor - Low Cosmic/Mid Sky Father: The Aegis is one of the most powerful personal body armor's in comic history.

Iron Man Armor - High Meta - Mid Herald (depending on the suit)

X-O armor - Low Herald: Not sure if the X-O suit can be classified as a weapon? If so, I guess that the Venom symbiote has the right to also be classified as a weapon.


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Aren't the GL rings semi sentient as well? I guess that it would depend on a persons perspective as to what they believe that a weapon is. If I were to judge the Uni Power, I would call it a weapon. A very sophisticated one, but one all the same. What about Mother Boxes? Aren't they sentient?

Yeah, i'd say the Star Brand's an object/weapon, for my purposes anyway. Same as a mother box. I even said more or less inanimate objects in the OP, as i know some objects have a life of their own.


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The energy blast absorption has nothing to do with the Ebony Blade harming skyfathers.

It's already KILLED a skyfather and it never fired an energy blast. Seth, who had absorbed the power of his entire pantheon, was killed by Hogun hurling the Ebony Blade cursed Black Knight into him (Black Knight was unharmed btw).
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Let's see Captain America's shield do that.


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