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The Flash Family vs these heralds.

The Flash Family

Barry Allen
Wally West
Jay Garrick
Jesse Quick
Bart Allen

Vs

Silver Surfer
Star Dust
Nova
Firelord
Air-Walker

Fight is on a deserted class M planet and no bfr, which team wins?

Also to add that there's 2 scenarios, the first is a random encounter and t b e second both teams have a working knowledge of the other teams abilities.

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So Flash #163. Wally is in bed, about to sleep, when he realises there's a bomb in his house. He takes it, runs from Keystone City (which is in Pennsylvania) to the Nevada Desert, and thinks he can get back 'in nanoseconds', as the bomb is about to blow:

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Problem is, as that bomb explodes, simultaneously (this is important) four other bombs will also explode, in Metropolis, Gotham, New York and (most impressively), Atlantis:

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No problem. Flash can just track the signal back to its source, back in Kansas. Remember, all this is done in an instant - the bomb was literally about to explode when he took it from his house.

Disaster! The 'source' of the transmissions was just a relay - he needs to find out more info about the targets. But the computer is too slow - so he runs to Silicon Valley from Kansas, takes computer equipment, and amps the original computer to lightspeed:
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Remember, again - the other bombs are exploding simultaneously with the first one, so all five bombs are about to explode when he's doing all this.

He goes to Metropolis:
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And takes the bomb from there to Montana, into the deepest levels of an old coalmine:
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Then runs to Gotham, crisscrossing an entire neighbourhood, to find Batman:
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Disposes of that bomb 'five miles away' (lol, chump change at this point), then runs to NYC, then disposes of that bomb at the top of Mount Whitney, in California:
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Remember, all this is done in the instant before the bomb explodes (he could feel the initial bomb heating up, and the other bombs are all simultaneously exploding at the same time).

Then he runs out to the Pacific, then swims down to the bottom of the ocean to disarm the next bomb.
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So to recap:

As 5 bombs are about to explode at the same time, Flash gets out of bed and dressed, runs from Keystone City (in Penn.) to Nevada, then back to Kansas, then to Silicon Valley, collects equipment, then back to Kansas, builds a supercomputer, then to Metropolis, then down a random mine in Montana, then to Gotham, searches (part of) it, then to NYC, then up the highest mountain in the US in California, then out to the Pacific somewhere, then swims down to the bottom to disarm the last bomb.


Note he did all of this in nanoseconds.


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any of the flash solos


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Notice how Lawest made sure not to include black flash.

Respect


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I like how Flash can swim much faster than Aquaman.

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I like how Flash can swim much faster than Aquaman.


He can do EVERYTHING faster.

Even 1% of light speed (let alone multiples of) is staggeringly fast. People don't realise just how broken the Speed Force is.


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Round 2 the heralds bombard the planet from outer space.

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I like how Flash can swim much faster than Aquaman.


How exactly is that surprising?

From The Lame Unadventures of Aquaman, issue 5:

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Round 2 the heralds bombard the planet from outer space.


Heralds:"Let-"
Flashes: *speedsteal*


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The Heralds win. Flash combat showings are trash tbh.


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The Heralds win. Flash combat showings are trash tbh.


Full capacity rule, troll:

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For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed

Literally states how Flash's comic showings aren't = forum performance.


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I'm not going to say a character would win if he doesn't have wins against characters of this level. Flash sucks in fights. People like Damage and Konvikt stand in one spot and laugh at his attacks. Surfer destroys him and the rest of the Flashes tbh.


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I'm not going to say a character would win if he doesn't have wins against characters of this level. Flash sucks in fights. People like Damage and Konvikt stand in one spot and laugh at his attacks. Surfer destroys him and the rest of the Flashes tbh.


Didn't the Flashes destroy the Anti monitor?
Here's Wally:

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Pretty sure Barry did something to him too...


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Surfer defeated 2 Celestial level beings on his own. I don't see anyone holding him to that level. Thor has as well. Hulk. Heck, even Spiderman has withstood abstract level attacks. If we are putting these characters at that tier of power, we need to change the tier thread.


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Overall, Flash is garbage.


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Surfer defeated 2 Celestial level beings on his own. I don't see anyone holding him to that level. Thor has as well. Hulk. Heck, even Spiderman has withstood abstract level attacks. If we are putting these characters at that tier of power, we need to change the tier thread.


Wait so you're moving the goalposts?

You said he didn't have wins against characters of this level

I showed he does. Far beyond, actually. Anti monitor there was so far beyond herald level it wasn't funny.

Now you say....oh but it doesn't count?


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He was recently punching Antimonitor across the multiverse, lol.


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Flash had help against Monitor and that's literally Flash best and only combat showing. 99% of the time, hes garbage tbh and does absolutely nothing to help the JLA against serious threats.


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Flash had help against Monitor and that's literally Flash best and only combat showing. 99% of the time, hes garbage tbh and does absolutely nothing to help the JLA against serious threats.


You mean he was helping the others with the AM.

@Juntai good catch:
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Barry punches Anti Monitor through universeS at near infinite mass.

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And Barry isn't even the fastest one here.

Plus, speedsteal, that would amp the Flashes even more. Imagine how fast Surfer and the other heralds are...now imagine all that speed stolen from them, and then stacked on to the Flashes (remember, Wally can share speed).

That's the real ace in the hole here.


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Lmmfao... at least you know the Flashes outside of one showing is basically irrelevant. Imagine us accepting just one showing from Rhino, how uber he would be. Sadly, his consistency has ruined him on KMC. Flash is Rhino. He has that ooonnnneeee showing that makes him looks relevant while the rest of his fights are shit.


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