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Originally posted by dmills

Ah, but that's not what you asked me. You just pulled the ol' kmc bait and switch Galan my friend. Shame on you stick out tongue
Seemed like Galan was just verifying that there was a premise to believe that Nova would actually utilize super speed in non-space combat, though the conclusion that it didn't compare to Flash (whose combat speed exceed's Nova's travel speed) was somewhat foregone.

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Bart wins.

Just accept it.

I don't want to have to take my bff jacket away from you.


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SBP has an unhealthy phobia of the Flashes.. He wilts when they're around.. And if NP is able to take to the air, Flash "jumping" ain't gonna cut it..
Ohh. Nuul didn't disclose that little tidbit. Shame on him.

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He has a phobia because they kick his ass.


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So its not some sort of inherent weakness? Because as I said before, if he can generate enough power to bust open SBP like that then this is going to be a short fight.

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Whatever the pic shows, then that's who'll we use. I forgot how powerful Bart was during that time, so we should probably use current Bart.

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So its not some sort of inherent weakness? Because as I said before, if he can generate enough power to bust open SBP like that then this is going to be a short fight.

He's afraid of getting dumped in the Speed Force again.


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Seemed like Galan was just verifying that there was a premise to believe that Nova would actually utilize super speed in non-space combat, though the conclusion that it didn't compare to Flash (whose combat speed exceed's Nova's travel speed) was somewhat foregone.
No doubt. And if his question had been such then I wouldn't have wasted his or my time. As you said its a foregone conclusion that Flash is faster.

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Originally posted by Omega Vision
He's afraid of getting dumped in the Speed Force again.
Gotcha.

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Ohh. Nuul didn't disclose that little tidbit. Shame on him.


You said, "weakness" and him being dumped in the speed force is not that.


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Originally posted by The Nuul
You said, "weakness" and him being dumped in the speed force is not that.



u didnt disclose that it took 3 Flashs to dump him into the speedforce. and ever since then, he has had a phobia of the Flashs and loses his composure when one is nearby.

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u didnt disclose that it took 3 Flashs to dump him into the speedforce. and ever since then, he has had a phobia of the Flashs and loses his composure when one is nearby.
Considering that in a forum fight all of his punches would be IMP since moving at speed force rates is far >>> speeds required for an IMP and he can throw punches at that speed and rate quite frankly Nova is screwed as are most other characters. How do you beat someone throwing "infinite mass" punches can stop you from moving with a thought faster. Fights processes and executes plans faster than anything in the universe.

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He loses his composure and goes berserk. erm That's generally bad for everyone around.

And yeah, it did take 3 to speedforce dump him. He's that frigging powerful.

Regarding speed steal, Wally has jacked entire planets.


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He loses his composure and goes berserk. erm That's generally bad for everyone around.

And yeah, it did take 3 to speedforce dump him. He's that frigging powerful.

Regarding speed steal, Wally has jacked entire planets.
And wally is still pitifully underpowered if you compare to a speedforce bart.

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Considering that in a forum fight all of his punches would be IMP since moving at speed force rates is far >>> speeds required for an IMP and he can throw punches at that speed and rate quite frankly Nova is screwed as are most other characters. How do you beat someone throwing "infinite mass" punches can stop you from moving with a thought faster. Fights processes and executes plans faster than anything in the universe.


A forum fight still governed by morality and in character depictions. I can't see one hero throwing around his most devastating attacks at another hero. You don't see me arguing that Nova opening a stargate in flashs' head.

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A forum fight still governed by morality and in character depictions. I can't see one hero throwing around his most devastating attacks at another hero. You don't see me arguing that Nova opening a stargate in flashs' head.
He'd never have the time to try it is my point.

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He loses his composure and goes berserk. erm That's generally bad for everyone around.

And yeah, it did take 3 to speedforce dump him. He's that frigging powerful.

Regarding speed steal, Wally has jacked entire planets.



I was just pointing out that he tried to make it seem Bart was >>> SBP which isnt the case..

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Ah, but that's not what you asked me. You just pulled the ol' kmc bait and switch Galan my friend. Shame on you stick out tongue
Negatory.

All I asked for were planetary battle speed feats from Nova. You provided me with some of those type of feats -which I gave you props for-. Said feats, however, still weren't enough to make me believe Nova can compete with Flash's speed on any level (as the scan I posted earlier clearly shows, even as a teenager Bart was able to casually operate by the attosecond.)

Just because the scans you provided didn't prove the point you were trying to make, it doesn't mean I "pulled the ol' KMC bait-and-switch." I sincerely hope you don't continue to construe it as such.


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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I was just pointing out that he tried to make it seem Bart was >>> SBP which isnt the case..


Hes not > SBP and I didnt say that. He did blitz him and hurt him though. Nova is a fly compared to SBP.


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Originally posted by carver9
This is about to be a dumb a** question but I know what a pico second is, nano second, etc, etc... but what in the hell is a atto second? How fast is that?


No, that's a valid question, it's not common knowledge I don't think. I didn't know either.

"An attosecond is an SI unit of time equal to 10−18 of a second. (one quintillionth of a second).[1] For context, an attosecond is to a second, what a second is to about 31.71 billion years."

Which means that by the time someone moved, Bart has already watched a universe form up until this point. Pretty ridiculous I know... but that's what the comic said lol....

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