__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
What you believe is not fact, Superman would have too be on Classic Odin level of power, Superman cant phyiscal harm MAngog what so ever, MAngog feeds on it, Classic Odin had to use arcane magic that cost him his life, Superman is gant compare Classic Odin and SA Mangog. Since Superman doesnt have that type of power, sipes is dead as you can be, death of Superman x10.
I didn't see Odin try to physically damage Mangog. Energy blasts are not the same as blunt force. So stop with the Superman has to be on Classic Odin level nonsense.
So, your argument is that guys like Thor and Superman are strongh enough to physically beat Silver Age Mangog?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
A lot of energy blasts still have some element of kinetic energy. It might not be exactly the same as a punch, but it would give some indication that you can withstand physical damage if you can powerful energy ones.
It's not, but there was a big problem on this forum for a while where people seemed to assume that physical damage was somehow inherently weaker than say, energy blasts.
considering that in comic, every character blasted with an energy blast goes off flying would indicate that it does pack physical damage. thus rendering h1's argument = a bunch of crap
I didn't claim that all energy blasts had no concussion properties. My point is that energy blasts can have a mixture of concussive abilities, burning abilities, matter manipulation abilities, etc. Usually energy blasts are to disintegrate or destroy through burning properties. It's just so happen that sometimes those blasts carry concussive force.
With that said, we can't equate energy blast durability with blunt force durability since the energy blast might not have the concussive force that the blunt force attack may have (it has more burning or manipulation force). Also there are many instances in comics where energy blasts were ineffective yet blunt force worked.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Superman vs. random guy (hv didn't work but punches did)
Thor vs. Surfer (the board attack vs. Surfer's blasts)
DD (JL total blast power including Superman's hv vs. Superman's and Maximas punches)
Surfer vs. Bill
Surfer vs. Gladiator (Surfer's punch on him vs. Surfer's energy)
Sentry vs. Ironman (Iron didn't do much with energy but managed to bust Sentry's nose)
You guys are the comic experts you should know some examples as well. I can't remember all of the ones I saw in my life, just going by the top of my head. But clearly, you see that energy blasts durability is not always the same as blunt force durability.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I'm sorry I don't quite remember the details. Why don't you help me out with a few (Goes against debating with me I know). What I do recall is that energy blasts didn't do much if anything to a character yet the character was rocked by either a punch, board attack, or some other type of physical attack. I'm not claiming that blunt force>>>energy blasts but just that they aren't always the same.
Could not the difference in effect be because the physical attacks in question were more powerful than the energy ones....rather than the person having two different durabilities?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
But how can we know? It is a comic after all and non of this stuff actually happened. We must go on the intentions of the writer. It seems reasonable to you that a character can emit a blast the same power as they can strike (assuming they are high class 100).
To clean things up, Odin not being able to destroy someone with his blasts doesn't mean Superman can't hurt them with his punches.
What is you dont understand or are you slow Classic/Silver Age Mangog was immune too physical and energy blows he absorbed them in which made him stronger, even Superman cant hurt beings like SA MAngog or PC Validus it takes more than brute strength against beings that are sky father level in power!!!
We have seen the damage Odin's blasts can do, are you saying that Superman's punches have been shown to do more damage?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
To be fair the prominent chars (Villains or Heroes) tank blasts better then physical damage. Superman gets blasted by a skyfather or trans or even abstract and he might be awake or bruised but let him get suckerpunched by Zod and his jaw is broken. Just my 2 cents.
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