First off...You were posting statements yourself.
Originally posted by carver9
In the comic it was stated as having the power to rewrite Molecules on a subatomic level. Do you read Hulk comics?
Sentry's Molecule Manipulation>>>That gun.
Originally posted by carver9
Also, again, "we do not base things off of statements"..
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry has been koed by Blue Marvel...has been dropped by Antman, while going all out, sent to the hospital by WWH. He isn't what you are trying to make him out to be. Hell, human torch has defeated him. He is one of the most powerful Heralds but he does not have unlimited potential, just like Hulk doesn't.
1. Sentry was not KO'ed by Blue Marvel. He came back and bullrushed him.
2. When has Antman dropped him??
3. The Sentry who fought WWH wasn't even at his strongest since he was mentally unstable(already showed you how Sentrys powers work) and still Sentry gave Hulk a hard fight and not only that but wanted to lose. Even confirmed by the writer himself.
4. LOL! The incident with the Human torch was obvious PIS. I mean its not like the Sentry has survived in the sun multiple times in many of his appearances.
I see you have resorted to low showings of the Sentry. Hulk obviously has more low showings due to being around longer. What about World War Hulk struggling with a weak version of Juggernaut? Yeah I went there.
Originally posted by carver9
Again, we go by on panel showings.
Originally posted by carver9
It was stated that Blue Marvel could split the moon in half...but thats all it is, a statement; something KMC does not go by. Show us Blue Marvel achieving this, you'll have a point but until then, it is ignored.
Originally posted by carver9
LOL...Blue Marvel got two punched by Hyperion. If Hyperion would have pressed his attack, Blue Marvel would have died.
So your point?
Originally posted by carver9
Yes, a "foot step" that can sink the eastern seaboard and going by statements (lol), Hulk footstep would have cracked the earth in half.
Originally posted by carver9
Your entire argument isn't based off anything but statements. Post some actual fts proving your claims.
Actually you were the one that was going off of statements, by saying Hulk had limitless powers and that he had the potential to take on Celestials. Not that it doesnt suit your argument you want to backtrack.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
First off...You were posting statements yourself.Yes I do and you're still not answering my question. Where is proof that gun is on the same level as Sentry/Void and Moleculeman? MoleculeMan(though not as strong as his classic version) molecule manipulation was planetary and yet the Sentry defeated him. You said the gun could rewrite on a subatomic level...Is that all the gun can do? The Sentry can [B]CREATE
life out of nothing as shown here:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101942/1985112-10.jpgSentry's Molecule Manipulation>>>That gun.
You were making statements too so I decided to do the same thing for kicks and giggles.
1. Sentry was not KO'ed by Blue Marvel. He came back and bullrushed him.
2. When has Antman dropped him??
3. The Sentry who fought WWH wasn't even at his strongest since he was mentally unstable(already showed you how Sentrys powers work) and still Sentry gave Hulk a hard fight and not only that but wanted to lose. Even confirmed by the writer himself.
4. LOL! The incident with the Human torch was obvious PIS. I mean its not like the Sentry has survived in the sun multiple times in many of his appearances.
I see you have resorted to low showings of the Sentry. Hulk obviously has more low showings due to being around longer. What about World War Hulk struggling with a weak version of Juggernaut? Yeah I went there.
LOL! Now its we go by panel showings. Show me Hulk being able to take on someone on a Celestial level. I DARE YOU.
Doesn't matter...Watcher said it was possible. Writers words>>yours. 🙂
If writers wouldn't tone down characters, Hulk would die against characters like Thor, Sentry, Gladiator, Hyperion, Silver Surfer,etc,etc.
So your point?
Where is it even stated that the hulks footsteps would crack the earth in half?
Actually you were the one that was going off of statements, by saying Hulk had limitless powers and that he had the potential to take on Celestials. Not that it doesnt suit your argument you want to backtrack. [/B]
I posted statements when you started posting statements. You're entire argument has been on nothing but statements.
MM wanted to get defeated by Sentry. There was no resistance during that scene. So I am unable to answer if the gun is on Sentry level or not since we dont know what that level is as of yet.
You started the statement argument, so I joined you.
His eyes was rolled to the back of his head after Blue Marvel punch. He was at the minimum flash koed by BM.
Antman defeated Sentry and the Avengers.
Hercules also ran through Sentry. Wouldn't consider that a low showing. Red Hulk stomped Sentry along with the rest of the Avengers. Where was it stated Juggernaut being weakened when he fought WWh?
When did I say Hulk could take out Celestials? I posted that scan to use your own argument against you) and I dont think WWH could stalemate Galactus either (Pak said that as well).
The Watcher said that Blue Marvel could split a moon. The Shiar Empire said Gladiator is the most powerful being in the Universe. Thor stated Hulk is the strongest being hes ever faced. Stated on panel that Cyclops optic blast can split a moon in half. Statements dont mean crap...we go by fts.
Thats your opinion that those characters can beat Hulk. I'm not holding that against you either. I'm debating the topics in this thread and from what I've seen, WBH wins the majority against Void.
"DO IT BEFORE I BREAK THE WORLD".
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh035.jpg.html
Let me know when you are ready to debate.
lol...You're a funny character.
Originally posted by carver9
I posted statements when you started posting statements. You're entire argument has been on nothing but statements.
Originally posted by carver9
MM wanted to get defeated by Sentry. There was no resistance during that scene. So I am unable to answer if the gun is on Sentry level or not since we dont know what that level is as of yet.
Originally posted by carver9
You started the statement argument, so I joined you.
Originally posted by carver9
His eyes was rolled to the back of his head after Blue Marvel punch. He was at the minimum flash koed by BM.
Originally posted by carver9
Antman defeated Sentry and the Avengers.
Originally posted by carver9
Hercules also ran through Sentry. Wouldn't consider that a low showing. Red Hulk stomped Sentry along with the rest of the Avengers. Where was it stated Juggernaut being weakened when he fought WWh?
2. The Juggernaut that fought WWH wasn't even using much of the Cytorracks powers like classic Juggs. I have that specific comic.
Originally posted by carver9
When did I say Hulk could take out Celestials? I posted that scan to use your own argument against you) and I dont think WWH could stalemate Galactus either (Pak said that as well).
Hell, it has even been stated that Hulk power could take out the Celestials.
You did indicate that Hulk at full power(WBH) could take on Celestials. Dont try to divert(like you keep doing). And stop playing games! You used statements well before I did, so how could you use that against my argument???
Originally posted by carver9
The Watcher said that Blue Marvel could split a moon. The Shiar Empire said Gladiator is the most powerful being in the Universe. Thor stated Hulk is the strongest being hes ever faced. Stated on panel that Cyclops optic blast can split a moon in half. Statements dont mean crap...we go by fts.
Your trying to compare the incident with blue marvel on the moon to regular statements, you're getting desperate. Let me post the scans again...
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...6/3442416-5.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...6/3442417-6.png
This is what happened. While on the moon Blue Marvel threw his Congressional Medal of Honour so hard at the surface, the Watcher living there said he could have split the moon!
Again you cant compare to those other statements, because there is PROOF that BM could have due to him throwing his Medal of Honour hard into the moons surface. Thus the Watcher said he could have split the moon in half. It doesn't get any simpler than that.
Originally posted by carver9
Thats your opinion that those characters can beat Hulk. I'm not holding that against you either. I'm debating the topics in this thread and from what I've seen, WBH wins the majority against Void.
Originally posted by carver9
"DO IT BEFORE I BREAK THE WORLD".http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh035.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9
Let me know when you are ready to debate.
Uh...Yeah I've been ready. I'm waiting for you to prove how WBH even defeats the Void/Sentry.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
lol...You're a funny character.Actually you posted statements first.
Where was it even indicated that MM wanted Sentry to defeat him??? He killed Sentry 3 times, Sentry came back finally knowing how to use his powers and owned MM.
Stop bringing up statements to divert when you where posting statements first.
Doesnt matter Sentry came back and bullrushed him.
When?
1. Sentry wasn't even fighting seriously against Hercules. Ares gives Hercules tough fights and yet Sentry/Void owned him.
2. The Juggernaut that fought WWH wasn't even using much of the Cytorracks powers like classic Juggs. I have that specific comic.
Here is where you stated it:
You did indicate that Hulk at full power(WBH) could take on Celestials. Dont try to divert(like you keep doing). And stop playing games! You used statements well before I did, so how could you use that against my argument???
LOL!
Your trying to compare the incident with blue marvel on the moon to regular statements, you're getting desperate. Let me post the scans again...
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...6/3442416-5.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...6/3442417-6.pngThis is what happened. While on the moon Blue Marvel threw his [B]Congressional Medal of Honour so hard at the surface
, the Watcher living there said he could have split the moon!Again you cant compare to those other statements, because there is PROOF that BM could have due to him throwing his Medal of Honour hard into the moons surface. Thus the Watcher said he could have split the moon in half. It doesn't get any simpler than that.
Its not just "my opinion" but the majority of everyone else on this thread. WBH does not win the majority against Void, you still have not shown Hulk being able to resist MM on the level of the Void. Instead posted a mere Molecule gun. Void has other ways of defeating Hulk, one being mind rape(which he has already did to the Hulk IIRC).
What is this even suppose to prove? And is that not a "statement" itself?
Uh...Yeah I've been ready. I'm waiting for you to prove how WBH even defeats the Void/Sentry. [/B]
Here is the beginning of the first statement. Right here my friend.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Research how Void/Sentrys powers work and then you'll know why he wins. Matter a fact...I'll just post this."When stable he has the [B]potential for virtually limitless power
, ... however, if his mental state wavers, he becomes weaker and easier to defeat"The OP doesn't state what mental state he is in, so I am just going to assume he is mentally stable like in his Paul Jenkins run. And also the OP said Void/Sentry so I'm assuming he has access to both powers.
I have a simple question...Whats Hulk going to do against Sentrys/Voids molecule manipulation? [/B]
It was stated in the comic afterwards that MM wanted defeat.
You brought up the statements.
Sentry was koed, thats all that matters. Lets not forget, Hulk overpowered him with one arm. Sentry couldn't break lose and was hurt once Hulk let him go.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108566/3405615-d1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108566/3405616-d2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108566/3405617-d3.jpg
Show me where I said WBH could take on Celestials.
Lol...where was it stated that Sentry wasn't trying against Herc?
Where was it stated that Juggernaut wasn't at full power? If anything, the opposite was proven.
The BM scene was Hyperbole.
There wasn't any proof that BM could have destroyed the moon "since it didn't happen.
There are some that think WBH could beat Sentry. Did you go through the thread and count everyone that voted for WBH and Sentry.
Originally posted by carver9
Here is the beginning of the first statement. Right here my friend.It was stated in the comic afterwards that MM wanted defeat.
You brought up the statements.
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry was koed, thats all that matters. Lets not forget, Hulk overpowered him with one arm. Sentry couldn't break lose and was hurt once Hulk let him go.http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108566/3405615-d1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108566/3405616-d2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108566/3405617-d3.jpg
It doesn't matter if Sentry was koed or not because he quickly came back and bullrushed Blue Marvel.
And are you flipping serious with those scans??? 😱 😱 😱
I mean are you serious??? Wheres is it even indicated that Sentry was trying to break free? Hulk was hugging him tightly because he was a friend off Sentry and Sentry was not even serious but laughing. How was Sentry even in any real danger??? Hulk caught him by surprise.
I have that comic and in that SAME comic the Void broke every bone in Hulks body.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/55993/3297641-void3.jpg
You just deflated your own argument.
Originally posted by carver9
Show me where I said WBH could take on Celestials.
You then posted this scan.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/On...t13456.jpg.html
And a poster got on you for posting that scan.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...where was it stated that Sentry wasn't trying against Herc?
Originally posted by carver9
Where was it stated that Juggernaut wasn't at full power? If anything, the opposite was proven.
Read the comic again(since you're a Hulk fan) and get back at me.
^^^Juggernaut was good and so the Cytorrack gave him very little power compared to in his classic days. Juggernaut didnt even have his shields or magic like he did in his classic days. Come on...
Originally posted by carver9
The BM scene was Hyperbole.
Originally posted by carver9
There wasn't any proof that BM could have destroyed the moon "since it didn't happen.
Originally posted by carver9
There are some that think WBH could beat Sentry. Did you go through the thread and count everyone that voted for WBH and Sentry.
Yes I did and the majority state Sentry/Void for obvious reasons and they still do.
Originally posted by bbrem123
Carter gets a hard on from the hulk. Of course he is gonna say he wins here. No point in arguing with him.
I dont know why since he doesn't really know how to debate for the Hulk. I've seen better fanboys who actually KNOW HOW to debate for the Hulk and know how to actually bring up better arguments for the Hulk on comicvine. No offense to carver...But I've seen better well established Hulk fanboys who actually know the character from the inside and out. Again no offense to carver or Hulk fans. Just saying it like it is.
Originally posted by bbrem123
I can agree with that Thanos statement. But they both were to little effect in the end.Like I said agree to disagree on that. I can say he dropped to his hands and knees because he was damage by their attacks and then held now by that force so they could do what they liked to him. I just dont see it the same way. I will gladly change my mind tho if the proper evidence is shown, but this scene can be perceived in different way. Just like everything else in comics.
How is this really that different to what I said? Except that the spear to the chest was the 1st attack and it didn't drop him:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Infinity%206/infinity06b-_zps9db827fd.jpg
It's when the black energy envelops him (most likely the distorted space-time reference taking effect giving the spear stellar mass) that Hulk falls to the floor and is clearly depicted fighting against the weight, backed up by Proximas dialogue: http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Infinity%206/infinity06c-_zpsf2246e00.jpg
It was explicitly mentioned that it was the weight of a star he was subjected to yet for whatever reason you chose to ignore what was clearly stated (and shown) on panel in favour of you're own distorted interpretation. No one in this thread was claiming Hulk had a sparkling performance in Infinity but attempting to dismiss what were pretty significant strength/durability feats for no other reason than "because" or for the fact it somehow impacts negatively on Thanos is straight bias/hate on your part.
Originally posted by The Sorrowhow the hell does it impact thanos? I could care less if it did. Dude just leave it alone. We are not going to agree
Cool, but this contradicts what you said initially.How is this really that different to what I said? Except that the spear to the chest was the 1st attack and it didn't drop him:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Infinity%206/infinity06b-_zps9db827fd.jpgIt's when the black energy envelops him (most likely the distorted space-time reference taking effect giving the spear stellar mass) that Hulk falls to the floor and is clearly depicted fighting against the weight, backed up by Proximas dialogue: http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Infinity%206/infinity06c-_zpsf2246e00.jpg
It was explicitly mentioned that it was the weight of a star he was subjected to yet for whatever reason you chose to ignore what was clearly stated (and shown) on panel in favour of you're own distorted interpretation. No one in this thread was claiming Hulk had a sparkling performance in Infinity but attempting to dismiss what were pretty significant strength/durability feats for no other reason than "because" or for the fact it somehow impacts negatively on Thanos is straight bias/hate on your part.
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Read the comic again(since you're a Hulk fan) and get back at me.^^^Juggernaut was good and so the Cytorrack gave him very little power compared to in his classic days. Juggernaut didnt even have his shields or magic like he did in his classic days. Come on...
Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Stop being in denial.
