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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not sure or cant recall .53 hercs is about.

Wbh and .21 as in the power of wishing well on him?

Anyways, i think he was basically spelling it out when pak coined the term herc. There was no need to even give it this term, not even remotely unless u are taking something(strength/power) that is defining from said character(Hercules) and applying it to other threats however nonsensical it looks, if u didnt mean to portray it so outwardly like pak did.

I literally posted it on the page twice now for you.

Hercs have NOTHING to do with physical force.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So apparently, we are meant to believe that someone with 0.53 Hercs:
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Can be easily restrained by a human:
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A human? Yes, as Strange says:
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We are meant to believe that Fin Fang Foom, a guy who BEFORE he was amped, was already a threat to Hulk, and despite being SIGNIFICANTLY amped....
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....was still *only* 17 Hercs:
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And most importantly....THIS Hulk:
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Wasn't even 1 Herc:
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Apparently, according to Carver, Monica Rappacini is almost TWICE as powerful as AMPED WBH, lmao.

And Jennifer, stuck in her human form, restrained her.


Hercs have ZERO relation to physical power. Saying something is 133.45 Hercs doesn't mean its 133.45 times Herc's strongest physical punch, unless someone wants to make the case that Monica has almost twice the force of amped WBH.

Edit: I say zero, but it is a bit related - the more Hercules exerts himself, the more he radiates. But it's not the actual force from his punch. Its the energy he's radiating that's being measured. Celey, Pak was clear in this. Its the radiation that's being measured, NOT THE FORCE OF THE PUNCH. People forget that.


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So apparently, we are meant to believe that someone with 0.53 Hercs:
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Can be easily restrained by a human:
https://i.postimg.cc/wBqVFzRc/RCO010-1469401173.jpg

A human? Yes, as Strange says:
https://i.postimg.cc/1zvKjdpx/RCO014-1469401173.jpg

We are meant to believe that Fin Fang Foom, a guy who BEFORE he was amped, was already a threat to Hulk, and despite being SIGNIFICANTLY amped....
https://i.postimg.cc/xC730bxt/RCO011-1469401173.jpg

....was still *only* 17 Hercs:
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And most importantly....THIS Hulk:
https://i.postimg.cc/VkDMfC5n/RCO018-1469401173.jpg

Wasn't even 1 Herc:
https://i.postimg.cc/GmHbBRV5/RCO020-1469401173.jpg

Apparently, according to Carver, Monica Rappacini is almost TWICE as powerful as AMPED WBH, lmao.

And Jennifer, stuck in her human form, restrained her.

The .53 hercs is the amount of wishing power on her. Why would it make her super strong?

17 hercs is phukkin strong. He wished for "power to conquer the world" so the 17 hercs reading is most likely the sum total of his magical amp(?).

Wasnt 1 herc as in there was .13 left of magic energy on Betty and .21 on Hulk iirc. No wishing power amping their strength here.

The wishing energy on Rappacini is not amping her power or strength. It hasnt been used.


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I literally posted it on the page twice now for you.

Hercs have NOTHING to do with physical force.

Reposting (so now, a third time):


Hercs have ZERO relation to physical power. Saying something is 133.45 Hercs doesn't mean its 133.45 times Herc's strongest physical punch, unless someone wants to make the case that Monica has almost twice the force of amped WBH.

Edit: I say zero, but it is a bit related - the more Hercules exerts himself, the more he radiates. But it's not the actual force from his punch. Its the energy he's radiating that's being measured. Celey, Pak was clear in this. Its the radiation that's being measured, NOT THE FORCE OF THE PUNCH. People forget that.

I think ure missing the forest for the trees. Ure getting stuck or choosing to get stuck in specific terms like mystical energy and such.
Originally they had explained the power of certain threats like pandora's box by equating Hercules' max power output in ome blow to a herc so u can kinda guage how powerful a threat someone or something is. It was nonsensical, but really dumbed down to make it simple. Obviously as pak continued on with his stories, it got more nonsensical, but kept the underlying theme in terms of power and threat level he assigned to particular foes or objects. Fin Fang with 17 hercs of amped power and the 133.4hercs power pandora as a legitimate high level threat were the best examples of this.

Again i go back to the term herc itself. He literally took a character known for strength and power and used his defining characterstics as a basis to give readers an idea of how strong, or how powerful, or how much of a threat a character or object is to further his stories. He called it a herc of all things.. Stupid yes.. But i think it made things simpler.


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What I'm trying to figure out is, if it's the mystical energy inside of Herc, why even have him throw a punch? Why not just take a reading like she did with everyone else that was standing still? The answer cant be "Hercules exert more mystical energy when punching" because if that is the case, I want to see proof of this via scans.


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Isn’t the scan itself proof of what you’re requiring


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The galaxies were destroyed by probes creating a construct and channeling their power to destroy
the galaxy whose power was then channeled into Imperiex's ship.
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None of your scans say anything about channeling their power. Those constructs are separate machines.

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None of your scans say anything about channeling their power. Those constructs are separate machines.

laughing out loud

The hallowers are straight up stated to be created from the probes themselves.

How's that a different machine?


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@JL king...

Dont get what youre saying. Example... she stood still, pointed the reader at Cho and got a reading from him. The same thing happened with Fing. A reading was given on how powerful he was with just a point. Why have Hercules even punch if all it takes is a point to read how many Hercs of magical energy someone have. None of these people were attacking when she read their Hercs. If Herc punches power isnt a factor of this then why have him punch? If he exerts more magical power during each punch, we need to see proof of this.


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The hallowers are straight up stated to be created from the probes themselves.

How's that a different machine?


Where does it say this? Are you confusing the constructs with the probes? Two different things. The constructs are the hollowers. The constructs replicate into to large colonies. The probes position the constructs into place.

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To make things simpler for all.

Pandora's box is 133.45 Hercs, yes? Hulk inhaled that. We say OMG he's tanking 133.45 Herculeses punching his lungs! Abstract feat, when you consider Hercules has toppled Galactus!

Ok. Monica Rappacini, a normal human, has water splashed on her with 0.53 Hercs of power on her skin.

Is she tanking half of Herc's power on her skin? Remember, the guy has toppled Galactus.


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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The .53 hercs is the amount of wishing power on her. Why would it make her super strong?

17 hercs is phukkin strong. He wished for "power to conquer the world" so the 17 hercs reading is most likely the sum total of his magical amp(?).

Wasnt 1 herc as in there was .13 left of magic energy on Betty and .21 on Hulk iirc. No wishing power amping their strength here.

The wishing energy on Rappacini is not amping her power or strength. It hasnt been used.


Bingo.

So a Herc is merely a measure of magic. I am NOT saying Pandora's Box was not a threat at all - it was super magical. But A HERC IS NOT A MEASURE OF STRENGTH.


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Fair enough - my point is that it's NOT a physical showing, and a Herc is a measure of mystical energy. Therefore, one cannot scale off Herc's physical feats and multiply by 133.


I honestly don't remember reading the comic; if I did, I skimmed the thing. I really didn't enjoy any of that Hulk arc at all.

So I'd have to go back and read it to see.


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Incredible hulks#627, and 635 are all you need, tbf.


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Pandora Box was the most powerful artifact/entity on the face of the planet. Lol... any attack from it is>>>>>>>>>>any being/artifact on earth. It was said once released, all life on the planet would cease to exist. Hulk endured and engulfed a being that is more powerful than anything on Earth. No matter how you try to downplay it, the ft is still>Abstract.


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Pandora Box was the most powerful artifact/entity on the face of the planet. Lol... any attack from it is>>>>>>>>>>any being/artifact on earth. It was said once released, all life on the planet would cease to exist. Hulk endured and engulfed a being that is more powerful than anything on Earth. No matter how you try to downplay it, the ft is still>Abstract.


And Monica Rappacini tanked half of 1 Herc on her skin.

Strange tanked 10%. AMADEUS CHO tanked 5% - which means when Cho was being scanned, he was 5% of Hercules's power.

According to you, then, 20 Korean boys = 1 Hercules. And Dr Strange = 2 Korean boys.


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Not trying to downplay the feat but surviving planetary destruction is abstract level now?


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Not trying to downplay the feat but surviving planetary destruction is abstract level now?


Basically, this. I'm not saying it wasn't a good showing....it was still pretty magical.

But Carv is trying to take Hercules toppling Galactus as his base level, then multiplying that by 133.45, then saying Hulk's lungs endured 133.45 punches worth (that toppled Galactus) internally.


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Basically, this. I'm not saying it wasn't a good showing....it was still pretty magical.

But Carv is trying to take Hercules toppling Galactus as his base level, then multiplying that by 133.45, then saying Hulk's lungs endured 133.45 punches worth (that toppled Galactus) internally.


Hercules during chaos war? When he was amped?


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laughing out loud Dark is comparing the wishing well splashing them (and not the power behind the wishing well) that can recreate planets, etc... to it's the power behind the wishing well. It's like saying if I threw Hal ring at my momma and she laughed it off, it's like tanking the full power of a GL.


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