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laughing out loud Dark is comparing the wishing well splashing them (and not the power behind the wishing well) that can recreate planets, etc... it's like saying if I threw Hal ring at my momma and she laughed it off, it's like tanking the full power of a GL.


Its exactly the same. Glad you finally realize it.

Hercs are not a measure of force, but of magic. Otherwise Monica got hit with 0.5 Hercs smile


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Hercules during chaos war? When he was amped?


What I'm saying is, 1 Herc=1 Hercules as stated per the scan.


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What I'm saying is, 1 Herc=1 Hercules as stated per the scan.


I agree. 10,0000%>

But it's the amount he radiates, NOT HIS PHYSICAL PUNCH FORCE. As stated on panel.


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Its exactly the same. Glad you finally realize it.

Hercs are not a measure of force, but of magic. Otherwise Monica got hit with 0.5 Hercs smile


Or the power behind the wishing well is what the device was reading which makes more sense. How're you not comprehending this? The wishing well obviously is a power source since a simple wish brought back the entire dark dimension. Why would it read as 0? Gambit picking up the gem of Cytorrak, Batman grabbing a GL ring, this isnt a true testament of power output. Monica can simply wish every human on earth cease to exist and it would happen. Do you not understand this? Scans of the water from the wishing well being harmful.


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@Dark...

His physical punching force was used to make the measurement of Herc. It's up to you to prove that Hercules gets an additional magical amp when punching. When you do that, I want you to prove that this happens with everyone who's reading was measured in Hercs.


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Or the power behind the wishing well is what the device was reading which makes more sense. How're you not comprehending this? The wishing well obviously is a power source since a simple wish brought back the entire dark dimension. Why would it read as 0? Gambit picking up the gem of Cytorrak, Batman grabbing a GL ring, this isnt a true testament of power output. Monica can simply wish every human on earth cease to exist and it would happen. Do you not understand this? Scans of the water from the wishing well being harmful.
did any of your teachers commit suicide?

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So why does Monica have 0.53, and Amadeus has 0.05Hercs?

Its from the same wishing well, right?


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did any of your teachers commit suicide?


Lol... crazy I think the same about you when you dont comprehend the simplest of things.


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@Dark...

Every wish each of them made took away the from the Hercs/wishing well power...at the end, Red She Hulk asked how much juice she had left from the wishing well and when she made her final wish, it dropped it down to zero.


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@Dark...

Every wish each of them made took away the from the Hercs/wishing well power...at the end, Red She Hulk asked how much juice she had left from the wishing well and when she made her final wish, it dropped it down to zero.


Good, we agree so far.

Next step:

So when Monica has 0.53 Hercs worth of wishing well water on her skin, what does this mean? What is 0.53 Hercs?


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The posts Darksaint made in this one should go into the mythbusters thread.


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@Dark,

The power from the wishing well. It cant be anything else except that. This same water, Tyrannus and Red She Hulk was about to drink it before it was made into wishing well water. It's the same water Tyrannus use to keep himself immortal.


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@Philo...

It can be posted in there just like the numerous of post that was presented proving World Forger isnt Abstract level in power but it wont mean a thing at the end of the day because people will still have their opinion.


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The power from the wishing well. It cant be anything else except that. This same water, Tyrannus and Red She Hulk was about to drink it before it was made into wishing well water. It's the same water Tyrannus use to keep himself immortal.


So they have this power on their skin. But it's not harmful. Correct? We agree on that, I hope.

So Monica has 0.53 Hercs of power on her skin. But this doesn't mean anything about her skin's durability, because it's not harmful. Correct?


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@Philo...

It can be posted in there just like the numerous of post that was presented proving World Forger isnt Abstract level in power but it wont mean a thing at the end of the day because people will still have their opinion.
Your trolling and lying about the world forger is a trollish attempt at deflecting from the fact that Darksaint put you on the table and went in no-lube for a dozen pages here.

It's amazing how much humiliating you can take without putting your pants back up and admitting you're outclassed.


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@Philo...

Me trolling and lying? Lol... there NUMEROUS of people who dont believe WF is as powerful as you make him. You can post Darksaint comments all you want in that thread just like i can post the comments about WF but it still wont make a difference because people disagree with his statement. Make sure you post the WF arguments when you post Saint comment.


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So they have this power on their skin. But it's not harmful. Correct? We agree on that, I hope.

So Monica has 0.53 Hercs of power on her skin. But this doesn't mean anything about her skin's durability, because it's not harmful. Correct?
checkmate.

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@Philo...

Me trolling and lying? Lol... there NUMEROUS of people who dont believe WF is as powerful as you make him. You can post Darksaint comments all you want in that thread just like i can post the comments about WF but it still wont make a difference because people disagree with his statement. Make sure you post the WF arguments when you post Saint comment.
You're hiding your incapability to think and rationalize scenes behind "well that's just my opinion, fo sho, ma boy". There are no two sides to this -- you're objectively wrong, and a troll.

Bringing up WF [again] when he has nothing to do with this thread, and where you've also gotten wiped the floor with -- won't work from deflecting that:

a). Darksaint beat the shit out of you in this debate, on the one topic that you should at least have a minimum of knowledge (Pak and his Hulk run)
b). He mythbusted one of the most wanked Hulk feats, and you're just sitting there like a 7 year old screaming "muh opinion....please.....don't mythbust sad" while Saint is looking at you menacingly with a half chub whispering "we'll go again"

Pathetic.


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You know what happened when future Hulk attacked future Surfer in the Dione series?


It would look something like that. Hulk trying to smash, and only hurting himself.


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Bingo.

So a Herc is merely a measure of magic. I am NOT saying Pandora's Box was not a threat at all - it was super magical. But A HERC IS NOT A MEASURE OF STRENGTH.

A herc is "equivalent to the maximum amount of enegy Hercules could expend in one blow". So it is very much tied to Hercules' strength. Because of his mystical nature, Cosimo was able to measure the energy from his max output. This unit of measurement in turn was applied to all things mystical in nature even in a nonsensical way.
When Cosimo measured 17.34 hercs on an amped Foom, one can say that he was able to do what roughly 17 Hercules was able to do(silly ad it may seem).... I say roughly because this is some pseudo science bullshiet. Pak was literally spelling it out when he coined the term hercs. He went even further and applied this term on other more esoteric magic sources no matter how nonsensical it may look.

Your other explanations on tanking wishing well magic and such is off...


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