We go by feats? Ok, we have seen Zeus knocking out a herald with hth....so how about you post feats of Gladiator ko'ing a skyfather.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
What feats prove that Glads can't affect Zeus? Do you know Glads feats?
Busting planets with fists, affecting beings who can physically stop Thor's might with their pinky. Come on now. A high end Glads will rock the shit out of Zeus. Hell Hercules rocked his dad before.
Hulk's strength feats are not better than Zeus's. Hulk isn't a fighting speedster according to 99.9% of his comics. Zeus operated much faster than Hulk.
And Thor has affected people who could stop Glads with a pinky. If you wanna go by who hurts and beats whos with Zeus using Gladiator be my guest. Make sure and use the "who did better against Thor? " debate as well. This cant end badly for Gladiators case.
Not with strength he hasn't. Which is the point. And I don't know anyone in Marvel who can physically stop all of Glad's might with their pinky. That's utterly crazy.
Busting Hulk's ribs up something fierce.
Zeus has no combat speed feats and thus no superspeed. Neither does Hulk for the most part. Spider-man is much faster than Hulk in combat.
LOL at Spiderman being faster than Hulk. In the past, an argument probably could have been made but not anymore. Dont even know why I am wasting my time debating with you.
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it is pretty funny that anyone can take a stance that zeus is a statue to glads because the skyfather has no speed feats to combat said speed. the obvious counters have been made--can glads punch out lt who has no feat speed? eternity? someone lower? death was shattered by strange (to a degree) with something i doubt was planetary level. glads could demolish death? but that is only the beginning of the.....mind-boggling stance. where is the proof that glads can ko a skyfather level being? nowhere in any comic, that is for certain. so on the one hand, he doesn't need proof to support this 'logical conclusion', , but on the other, ZEUS needs the proof that he could combat glads? we never saw king thor use superspeed as a skyfather either, until when? oh yeah, until he actually FOUGHT a speedster--the god of speed iirc correctly. limiting a skyfather's senses to a 'normal' herald level character's senses is...ridiculous. beyond ridiculous. and of course, it should be illegal in the forum to even use the forum version of powersets, which is happening, repeatedly and blatantly. make no mistake--the argument being made is NOT the same as saying glads is "fighting to his best", it IS saying he is doing 3 things utterly and in all ways, out of character--hitting an opponent with planet-busting force, using beyond lightspeed WHILE hitting with planet-busting force (never done in combo, ever by glads) AND or course, beating anyone remotely CLOSE to a skyfather level being. the entire line of argumentation lacks even the most remote support in any book ever written and is more than a little insulting.
the entire argument is actually so asinine, that i am convinced pr or bada is only leaving this open as some form of payback to one of you. probably abhi or carver. please, i'm begging someone, end this madness.
He blitzed Thor to a degree, but that was only really successful as it was because he knocked away Mjolnir during a time where the 60 second enchantment was in play, which caused him to revert back to Jake Olsen.
In War of Kings, he blitzed guardians of Galaxy + some X-men team. In the same saga, he blitzed members from Nova Corps (killing some of then).
Also,in a old FF four history ( black celestial saga), he fighted against Thor being in a bubble who made him much more slower ( normal people just froze).
Ignore Gladiator speed is PIS, imo.
That said, i cant see him blitzing a Skyfather. A Skyfather should have reflexes to at least react, if not faster.
So basically his only real speed feats in fights have been against vastly lesser opponents? And he also got stopped by Black Cloak when he went on his "blitz" spree...
Not canon to 616 Gladiator.
A Skyfather doesn't even need to react to someone like Gladiator though. All he does is run at people and try and punch. Hell, Masterson stopped his blitz attempt. Another blitz attempt couldn't even bust Sue's shields, and he was standing still just throwing a bunch of punches.
Basically, even if he's way faster, all Zeus has to do is swing at him.
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please, i'm begging someone, end this madness.
