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Originally posted by h1a8
Correct Glads didn't use his light speed and reflexes. prove that Zeus can amp his speed.


How fast would you say Zeus is?


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Hulk couldn't land a lick on Zeus whereas when he fought Gladiator, Hulk completely annihilated him. I dislike H1 right now for making me debate against one of my fave characters.


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Originally posted by Warlord
why's it still open?


I asked that a page or two back.

The criteria for ending a Thread here seems rather erratic.
I'm still a bit steamed that the WB vs JLA thread was killed before its time.
If you put that one up for Poll Vote- you would get a mixed bag.

Put this one up- you get a power stomp.

Gladiator is a Superman Clone.
Zeus is a Skyfather, and he can self amp himself to the maximum of his Skyfather Power-Set.
Be it lightning blasts, or giant electric charged fists- the damage output potential remains in the same league.

Gladiator is not a match for a major Marvel Pantheon Leader.

I really do not get why the notion of "Super-Clone vs. God" holds more validity as a debate topic than the notion of "Mega-Hulk vs. DC's Greatest Super Team."

Lack of balance much? confused


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BTW Jax... Thanos with the HOTI is still greater than Pre Beyonder smile

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Originally posted by jaxthejester
I asked that a page or two back.

The criteria for ending a Thread here seems rather erratic.
I'm still a bit steamed that the WB vs JLA thread was killed before its time.
If you put that one up for Poll Vote- you would get a mixed bag.

Put this one up- you get a power stomp.

Gladiator is a Superman Clone.
Zeus is a Skyfather, and he can self amp himself to the maximum of his Skyfather Power-Set.
Be it lightning blasts, or giant electric charged fists- the damage output potential remains in the same league.

Gladiator is not a match for a major Marvel Pantheon Leader.

I really do not get why the notion of "Super-Clone vs. God" holds more validity as a debate topic than the notion of "Mega-Hulk vs. DC's Greatest Super Team."

Lack of balance much? confused
why do you continue to troll the thread. Either debate or stay tfo.

Again, stop looking at strength. Glads is vastly faster. Zeus would be a statue to him.

Skyfathers arent stronger than all high heralds.You have to prove to what limit Zeus can amp. Because I haven't seen anything close to planetary strength from him.

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Originally posted by carver9
Hulk couldn't land a lick on Zeus whereas when he fought Gladiator, Hulk completely annihilated him. I dislike H1 right now for making me debate against one of my fave characters.
abc logic don't work. Hulk landed a hit. Glads didn't use his light speed at all. So you would argue that Glsds have light speed when it suits you (against d.c. chsracters).

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How fast would you say Zeus is?
faster than a real human but slower than spidey. Close to CA but probably a little slower.


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Proof1:
1+1=2 by definition

Proof 2:
2=2*1 = 1+1

What is this definition based on?

Prove 2*1=2.


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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
BTW Jax... Thanos with the HOTI is still greater than Pre Beyonder smile


stick out tongue Ha ha!

Tough not to smile along with a good sport.


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What is this definition based on?

Prove 2*1=2.
2 by definition is one more than 1, or is the successor of 1.

If x is a whole number then x+1 is defined as its successor.

Proof:
1 is the unit.
2*1 is 1+1 by the definition of multiplication. 1+1 is 2 by definition.

Or 1 is the multiplicative identity. Meaning, x*1=x for any real number x.
So 2*1=2 since 2 is a real number.


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2 by definition is one more than 1, or is the successor of 1.

If x is a whole number then x+1 is defined as its successor.

Proof:
1 is the unit.
2*1 is 1+1 by the definition of multiplication. 1+1 is 2 by definition.

Or 1 is the multiplicative identity. Thus x*1=x for any real number x.
So 2*1=2 since 2 is a real number.

Explain the definition of multiplication. Explain the definition of whole numbers. Explain what are real numbers. How is 2 by definition greater than 1?


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Originally posted by h1a8
why do you continue to troll the thread. Either debate or stay tfo.

Again, stop looking at strength. Glads is vastly faster. Zeus would be a statue to him.

Skyfathers arent stronger than all high heralds.You have to prove to what limit Zeus can amp. Because I haven't seen anything close to planetary strength from him.

abc logic don't work. Hulk landed a hit. Glads didn't use his light speed at all. So you would argue that Glsds have light speed when it suits you (against d.c. chsracters).

faster than a real human but slower than spidey. Close to CA but probably a little slower.



"why do you continue to troll the thread."

Interesting reply...

In my humble opinion; two posts in a 16 page Thread hardly constitutes Trolling my friend.

And to answer the implied intent of your question- the two posts that I did make were designed to:
A). Make a point.
B). Ask an honest question while making said point.

No Trolls, Orcs, or other fantasy characters needed.

"Either debate or stay tfo."

No.

You do not get to dictate my actions.

If you do not like my replies or posts, then ignore them. Or ignore me and block my posts from your feed.

Do exactly what you just told me to do. If you do not like my posts, simply do not read them.

But don't be such a hypocritical ass that you glaringly ignore your own advice when you post. no

"Again, stop looking at strength. Glads is vastly faster. Zeus would be a statue to him. "

Again?

What, exactly, are you referring to?

We have never had an exchange on this subject.
I have made no post regarding Gladiator's speed, nor have I commented on the speed of Zeus.

In point of fact- I have not quoted nor replied to any of your posts in this Thread (prior to this reply itself).

You're not... on the drugs are you? confused

"Skyfathers arent stronger than all high heralds.You have to prove to what limit Zeus can amp. Because I haven't seen anything close to planetary strength from him."

Still no.
Again- I do not have to do anything that you request.
Nor am I likely to, when you present yourself in such a manner.

That said; if you were to ASK what my views are, I would be more than happy to "choose" to reply to your inquiries.

Assuming we are not in agreement to begin with on some of the finer details.
Again- we have yet to actually debate this matter. At all.

"abc logic don't work."

Grammar "don't work" even less?

And I still have no clue what you're going on about.

"Hulk landed a hit. Glads didn't use his light speed at all. So you would argue that Glsds have light speed when it suits you (against d.c. chsracters)."

No... I really would not.

But you would not know this, because we have never interacted on the subject of Gladiator's speed.

Could you kindly quote the post where I attempt to debunk the light speed potential of Gladiator? Because I would love to read the post myself.

Perhaps I had an unknown out of body typing experience?

Look champ, this is basically what I have posted thus far:

A). I've made it clear that I feel Gladiator is not in the same league as Zeus. I have NOT elaborated on a reason my stance yet.
Nor have I addressed the topic of combat speed- for either foe.
(I.E.- Right now, you are basically making up your own points, and then debating them. It's moderately entertaining to read; but it really has no application to my post.)

B). I've made it known that I find this Thread has no more value, in and of itself, than other Threads that have been closed by Mods on this site.
I expressed concern for this, and asked why it occurred.
I did this with intentionally mild sarcasm, as a means to convey my frustration without resorting to less tactful forms of expression.

That's pretty much it. We have had no direct interaction beyond this.

But I have enjoyed reading your melt-down. So thanks for that.

P.S.- If you would like to actually know why I put Zeus in another league than Gladiator, then please feel free to "ask", prior to doing this with your post:



Best of luck.

- Jax


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faster than a real human but slower than spidey. Close to CA but probably a little slower.


So CA would have the reactions and strength to catch a hurled Mjolnir (which would stand as a proxy for a bullrushing Gladiator)?


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Only one person is voting for Gladiator and that one person has turned this into a 17 page thread. Amazing; outright amazing.


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Yeah, I remembered he did the same with the Ozymandias vs Kingpin thread.

Funny thing is, he probably thinks he's the don for pushing us to the limit, when in actual fact, it's merely because we're all too lazy to post scans.


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Yeah, I remembered he did the same with the Ozymandias vs Kingpin thread.

Funny thing is, he probably thinks he's the don for pushing us to the limit, when in actual fact, it's merely because we're all too lazy to post scans.


thumb up

Lets place a bet. I bet this thread (spite thread) ends up making it to 20+ pages...possibly 30.


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Lets place a bet. I bet this thread (spite thread) ends up making it to 20+ pages...possibly 30.


You'd win it.

Strangely, in the Ozy/Kingpin one, he folded quickly once I posted some scans. Which he should have easily found had he looked at the Kingpin's respect thread.

I think the same thing is happening here. He doesn't actually know what Zeus is capable of, so will stick to his position until someone actually bothers pulling up scans of a very little used character in Marvel.

Whilst ordinarily admirable, by not listening to the groupthink, the way he's been proven wrong before should really make him humbler and more open to the possibility that once again, he could be wrong.


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, I remembered he did the same with the Ozymandias vs Kingpin thread.

Funny thing is, he probably thinks he's the don for pushing us to the limit, when in actual fact, it's merely because we're all too lazy to post scans.


laughing out loud You guys rock. Very entertaining posts.

Here's the scans for catching Mjolnir that you referenced bud.
And IMO- you are correct- it's more than enough of a Speed Feat to qualify Zeus as capable of landing hits on Gladiator.

(Keeping in mind that Thor's Hammer Throws have been clocked at well above Light Speed...)

Here is a Mjolnir Throw vs. Silver Surfer

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Here it is against Zeus

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'Nuff Said. stick out tongue


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He also tagged Captain Marvel in light form

And the fact that Gladiator has failed to blitz anyone of merit.


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