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Utrigita
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Originally posted by manjaro
i think we need to slow down and not take all this omniverse thing so literally. sure there have been non canonical crossovers and such but i dont think marvel has any "jursidcition" over dc's universe or vice versa, so we cant say oh the omniverse is all the comic companies put together...when its actually...you know....not.


agreed


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Originally posted by Galan007
I want to see the comic where it's stated that DC/Marvel share the same Omniverse. smile


Asked that question a while back, never got answear still waiting...


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Utter bull ... LIES!!!!

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"The Universe is a single-dimension Reality,
such as Earth-616,
the mainstream Marvel Universe.

The Multiverse is a collection of alternate dimensions
with a similar nature and Universal hierarchy.

Earth-616 and alternate Earths seen in the Marvel universe
(which include beings like Eternity)
are withIN the same Multiverse.

Realms lacking this hierarchy of power are outside of the Multiverse,
but withIn the larger Omniverse.

Realms with a Multiverse are divided into divergent Earths
(who share a common history and diverge at a specific point)

And Alternate Earths (who are similar, but possess inherent differences)

The Omniverse is the collection of every single Universe,
dimension, etc.
Everything is withIN the Omniverse,
and there is only one Omniverse.

WithIN the Omniverse,
collections of associated realms from different MultiverseS,
are referred to as Megaverses
"
........................................................................................

Other MultiverseS as in,

the one the Ultraverse is located in,
the one the Masters of the Matrix are located in,
the one the New Universe is in,
the one Dr Who is in (Gallifreyan Multiverse)
the one Nth Man encompasses,
the one those strange concepts are in that the LT administers to in a different shape/form,

should I go on?

........................................................................................

I was wonder if you're serious,
or smoking a fat joint laughing your ass off
at how you make others waste their time.


Here's a quote from the handbook writers clarifying the term Megaverse as it means to Marvel:

quote:
Earth-616, the mainstream Marvel world, exists within a single Universe. A collection of similar, but divergent worlds, such as Earth X, Earth-MC2, and the What If? worlds, which have a similar universal power structure exist within the same Multiverse. An Earth that does not appear to have any similarities to the universal structure and hierarchy of Earth-616 or similar worlds, and thus it would be outside of the mainstream Multiverse, but within the greater Omniverse. It has been suggested that there may be one more division present between Multiverse and Omniverse, to link asociated worlds, such as those linked to Marvel, and to keep distinct from other such groupings, such as those associated with DC or other titles. Thus worlds like the New Universe or the Shadowline might be contained within the Marvel Megaverse.


So the Brothers BEFORE THEY WERE RETCONNED would be megaverses. However if you actually read the scans you'd see that the very issue i posted and the subsequent bio changed them to architects and guardians of dimensions as per the will of Spectre and LT:

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"each of whom became the guardian of a different megaverse"

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Originally posted by Utrigita
But they wasn't now was they no They where the joint property of Marvel and DC and Marvel used them the way the liked to, now why would marvel make the Brothers two Megaverses when they according to you doesn't have more then a Multiverse possibly because marvel is sure that they have a hell of a lot more???

Precisely.

Not to worry, another fantastical spin coming uo, I bet you.
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Originally posted by Utrigita
So handbook can be used when it supports your argument
but when it's used to clarify that Marvel has it own omniverse then it is a no go???

yes ... That's always been the story.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
big grin

Roma can also decide to erase DC as you know:
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Roma's Starlight Citidel oversees the entire Marvel Omniverse:

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"from this venue,

the Guardian of Reality can view events on EVERY PLANE of the Omniverse"



But how can this be if Marvel only has one Multiverse?

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Roma can also destroy any Universe within the Omniverse with the Celestial Nullifier:


"This Crystal embodies the LifeForce of your Home Dimension"
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"By breaking it, that Entire Portion of the Omniverse ceases to exist"



But how can this be if Marvel only has one Multiverse?
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In fact, the Celestial Nullifier has been able to do for quite a while:

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"A whole Universe! ...
He just wiped out a Whole Universe at the flick of a switch"


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"In ALL the Omniverse there is NOT ONE Universe
that I cannot Desroy at the Touch of a Switch"



But how can this be if Marvel only has one Multiverse?
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Simple .. cause GS says so. laughing


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http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe

"Although considered the “prime reality” in which events of universal significance occur

(and, indeed, Megauniversal and/or Omniuniversal significance),

this reality is designated as number 616 (thus, “Earth-616”) ... "


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Originally posted by Galan007
I want to see the comic where it's stated that DC/Marvel share the same Omniverse. smile


A comic showing that Marvel exists within the same creation as DC and an official recognition from both that said meeting is canon is quite sufficient. smile


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It has been suggested that there may be one more division present between Multiverse and Omniverse, to link asociated worlds, such as those linked to Marvel, and to keep distinct from other such groupings, such as those associated with DC or other titles. Thus worlds like the New Universe or the Shadowline might be contained within the Marvel Megaverse.

So now we have to Megaverses within a single Megaverse... great


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Originally posted by Mr Master
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"The Universe is a single-dimension Reality,
such as Earth-616,
the mainstream Marvel Universe.

The Multiverse is a collection of alternate dimensions
with a similar nature and Universal hierarchy.

Earth-616 and alternate Earths seen in the Marvel universe
(which include beings like Eternity)
are withIN the same Multiverse.

Realms lacking this hierarchy of power are outside of the Multiverse,
but withIn the larger Omniverse.

Realms with a Multiverse are divided into divergent Earths
(who share a common history and diverge at a specific point)

And Alternate Earths (who are similar, but possess inherent differences)

The Omniverse is the collection of every single Universe,
dimension, etc.
Everything is withIN the Omniverse,
and there is only one Omniverse.

WithIN the Omniverse,
collections of associated realms from different MultiverseS,
are referred to as Megaverses
"
........................................................................................

Other MultiverseS as in,

the one the Ultraverse is located in,
the one the Masters of the Matrix are located in,
the one the New Universe is in,
the one Dr Who is in (Gallifreyan Multiverse)
the one Nth Man encompasses,
the one those strange concepts are in that the LT administers to in a different shape/form,

should I go on?

........................................................................................

I always wonder if you're serious when spewing you known lies,
or smoking a fat joint laughing your ass off
at how you make others waste their time.


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A comic showing that Marvel exists within the same creation as DC and an official recognition from both that said meeting is canon is quite sufficient. smile
Show me where it says they share the same Omniverse please. smile


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Originally posted by Utrigita
I have always wanted to meet Galactus that is my big dream

laughing That would be fun.

Let's talk to Marvel, perhaps they can set up a meet. smile


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Originally posted by Mr Master
FIVE On Panel depictions of the Marvel Omniverse! (actually Illustrated)

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Earth X Trilogy - (2000)

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"The Omniverse"

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Infinity Abyss - (2002)

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"An Infinity beyond Infinity"

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Exiles - (Mid 2007)

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"I offer the Omniverse"

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X-Men Die by the Sword - (Late 2007)

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"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"


So the Chaos Wave tore DC to pieces .. LOLOLOLOL!!!!
And even REMADE DC ... HAHAHAHAH!!!
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Exiles - (2008)

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"Those lights we've been assuming was a star, just as we see from Earth,
they represent entire Dimensions.

I think that's a representation of the entire Omniverse,
we're looking at All Creation"


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(Bio)

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Spiderman Handbook - (Late 2007)


Core Continuum Designation

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"Numerical identification given to each Earth in the Omniverse"

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Avenger Most Wanted Files - (Late 2007)


1. Omniverse

2. TOAA

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1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

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Btw. On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:

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"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"

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None of that is true folks,
I admit it,
I was the one who drew those pages, and added that text,
I had them processed and now they're scanned.

What do mean you have those issues and they're staright from Marvel comics?

So?

I actually placed those pictures withIN all copies ever made of those issues.

:eek!:


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Originally posted by Mr Master
laughing That would be fun.

Let's talk to Marvel, perhaps they can set up a meet. smile


ore better meet LT because we are causing in balance ... ore being used in a evil scheme by Doom because of oure knowlegde there are plenty of funny opportunities


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Originally posted by Utrigita
But they wasn't now was they no They where the joint property of Marvel and DC and Marvel used them the way the liked to, now why would marvel make the Brothers two Megaverses when they according to you doesn't have more then a Multiverse possibly because marvel is sure that they have a hell of a lot more???

So handbook can be used when it supports your argument but when it's used to clarify that Marvel has it own omniverse then it is a no go???


Your rant stems from a misunderstanding of what happened in the comic book and what a megaverse actually is.

The Brothers as per continuity are NOT megaverses.

They are guardians and architects of a megaverse as appointed by Spectre and LT.

As joint property of Marvel and DC Marvel can use the Brothers as they wish, they just can't do anything which affects/depicts DC's or any other comic companies sole property. smile


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Originally posted by Galan007
Show me where it says they share the same Omniverse please. smile

Haven't you heard, it must be true because TOAA created DC:


2. TOAA

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2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/CREATOR of the Omniverse"


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Originally posted by Utrigita
It has been suggested that there may be one more division present between Multiverse and Omniverse, to link asociated worlds, such as those linked to Marvel, and to keep distinct from other such groupings, such as those associated with DC or other titles. Thus worlds like the New Universe or the Shadowline might be contained within the Marvel Megaverse.

So now we have to Megaverses within a single Megaverse... great


Nope you have realms outside of Marvels mainstream multiverse that are termed megaverse. confused


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Having alternate universes makes you a multiverse. Please get a handbook or a comic on the matter and read it.

TOAA according to Marvel is the ruler of the omniverse. Does that mean that Marvel has its own omniverse? no

Especially not when officially both companies acknowledge each other within the same creation.

Who is to say that DC's supreme being and Marvels aren't one and the same however each multiverse perceives that being differently?

Just something to think about. Either way officially as stated in Marvel bios and on its site, there is only one omniverse. Also within official sources are the point that DC and Marvel are within the same creation.

Thats all that needs to be said on the matter.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Haven't you heard, it must be true because TOAA created DC:


2. TOAA

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2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/CREATOR of the Omniverse"


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Nope you have realms outside of Marvels mainstream multiverse that are termed megaverse. confused

Do you have anything better to do than try and persuade the less intelligent people to your point of view?


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