cap knows everything about spidey....he's had access to spidey's s.h.i.e.l.d file and knows all there is to know about him, DD also knows alot about spidey having gone against and fought beside him before and know's his true identity (although thats really no biggie here) and wolvie definitely knows alot about spidey seeing as they've fought before and worked together countless times
this is an uneven match, if what you just mentioned would happen then wolvie and DD wouldn't be down and out, and they would still have a hand in this match up, youre basically stating that he'd throw them aside and web them up (which means that you're calling DD and wolvie stupid, which they definitely arent), and then take on cap, which obviously would give wolvie and DD enough time to get out of that one, and spidey would only have to deal with all three yet again......all youre taking into consideration is that spidey is smart and brushing aside that wolvie, DD , and cap are smart also, so basically you're giving your favorite character all the 1up's and giving DD, cap, and wolvie no mind at all
by the way that link isn't working for me, it just takes me to the main KMC page
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get the picture, then you'll see what I mean, all bias aside. It has the original characters untainted by fan popularity (which I personally think ruins comics). For example, everyone has been on wolvy's shaft from day one, and his powers and abilities got stronger over the years for almost no reason other than ppl wanted to see him be able to kill everyone. Like his battle with Venom.....he isn't in venom's class, period. Yet he went all animal (kinda like goin super sayin) and was able to take venom down......pure fandum and bs. venom could just throw a fire truck on him and call it a day.
DD is human, and Spidey could kill him no contest, he's only human. Wolvy is smart and the best in hand to hand combat, but extremely arrogant, not that he underestimates, but he is often over confident and pays for this time and time again. You're right about capn, but I don't think there is much he could do ta spidy, he just isn't strong enough to take him out.
Oh, and now a days when wolvy gets involved in cross overs, often his powers are vamped to make him look badass and unbeatable while other characters' powers get taken down a few notches so wolvy don't look like a punk.
look at the link matchesmalon put up, he can and has before, taking on multiple superpowered foes is what Spidey does for a living. Sinister six just for starters (not that they took him on all at once, but to make a point) ppl tag team spidey all the time.
That's what i don't like about todays comics though, b4 the character was a character that never changed in esense, but today depending on the writer and who their favorite is, spidey's abilities waver from comic to comic. Like one day he can throw cars, the next he has difficulty holding up a fat man. one day he doges bullets like its his morning excercise, the next he is running for his life. in the old days his powers were set, his progression through life believable. now it depends on how the wirter wants to portray him. That's how bad movies of comic characters get made, cuz the director's don't truly kno the characters' in all their essence.
They weren't the entire time. Spidey dodged his claws, that's what Spidey does. He dodges people. Wolverine is not as fast nor as strong nor as agile nor as powerful, etc. etc.
Any one of these characters can and have gone toe to toe with the webhead and he usually (in the end) finds himself beaten down into resistence or resorting to begging to team up.
due to current fanboys who hate on spiderman (which there r many)
1. Who wants to see a corny looking guy in tights beat badass wolvy?
2. Who wants to see a corny looking guy in tights beat an American hero?
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Spidey's abilities get downplayed in shLtty crossovers to make the other hero not lookas gay and obsolete, again, look at the comic page on the link, OG style wolvy gets ***** slapped like its nothin. Spidey also had a similar entrance with the fantastic four. ppl underestimate spidey all the time. I always find myself digging up info on spidey to prove he's not weak, cuz some dooshbag writer came out with a comic with webs next to wolvy or DD and make spidey look dumb (hes a genious and though maybe inexperienced in certain situations, is a problem solver, spidey rarely beats his tougher opponents on brute strength alone, cuz they're all much stronger than he is, so he uses his noodle all the time.) and weak.
Spidey"Now why is my spider-sense tingling? Is that you again, Wolvie? Dummy! NOBODY can sneak up on me--THose pigstickers may scare the bar room bulleis, but to me YOU'RE A JOKE!"
What the hell? Spider-man has BEATEN 'any one of these characters.' He doesn't beg to team-up unless it's Venom or Carnage he's fighting, and even then he doesn't really beg. You know absolutely nothing about Spider-man, so don't even bother voicing your opinion.
I know alot about DD and Wolvie and the fact that they alone could take the webhead. And Cap America would do it even quicker and more effetiently. So theres really no point to this thread since it takes Spidey too long to even faze them quick enough one on one.
You know nothing of Spider-Man, so whether you know anything about Daredevil or Wolverine means nothing. Spider-Man has beaten Daredevil and Wolverine, thus your argument is absurd. You are wrong, plain and simple. Spider-Man is MUCH faster than any of the three combatants in this thread. That is a fact. Go learn your facts.
Pff, all Spider-Man has to do is to web their eyes, and then he can easily watch from a safe distance who gets rid of the web first (my vote is on Wolverine).
DD, being blind, won't be affected by the web, but since when has a normal Spider-Man trouble fighting DD ?
People tend to forget the web of Spider-Man, which is a great weapon, especially against non-powerhouses such as DD, Wolverine and Captain America.
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Spidey in no way could successfully web DD's eyes from afar. He has incredible sense too, or have you forgotten? He would sense Spideys heart rate accelarate and move out of the way quite easily.
In no way would Cap panic under this circumstance and it isn't even pheasable that he doesn't get his sheild up in time.
Hah, have you forgotten that Captain America, Wolverine AND DD together are not half as fast as Spider-Man ? There's a very big difference between "sensing Spider-Man's heart rate accelerating" and knowing what your opponent is trying to do and avoiding the attack.
If Spider-Man moves towards DD, DD can not escape him. He may sense him, but that's all. His radar sense doesn't warn him for danger, or possible future danger, or the kind of danger. If it were that simple...
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What are you talking about? His senses let him dodge bullets. He senses the split second it takes a person to pull a trigger. Spiderman's not faster than a bullet!
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actually, i'm going to go against the norm and say that Spidey would have a better chance fighting all 3 of them at the same time than he would fighting them one after another...after another.
The 3 of them wouldn't work that well as a team. Sure, Cap is a huge team player, and Wolvie has shown signs of teamwork in the past. But each one of these guys would want the glory of taking out Spidey and instead of working together...it'd probably be a competition to see who takes him out first.
S.H.I.E.L.D. files will never have "everything there is to know" about Spiderman. He's like Johnny on the Spot. He's the equivalent of Maverick in Top Gun...he flys by the seat of his pants. It may know about his strength's and weaknesses, but no file could cover all there is to know about Spiderman.
So basically you're saying that the radar sense of DD is superior to the spider-sense when it comes down to avoiding attacks ?! (Spider-Man can not dodge bullets, only from a certain distance)
Wrong. DD is fast, very agile and knows how to combine his radar sense with his fighting skills, but dodge-wise, he's not in the same league as Spider-Man. If Spider-Man decides it's time to cover DD up in web, there's nothing he can do about it. Sure, DD will probably be able to avoid the first webattack - wouldn't be much of a fight if he didn't - but the second time, the spider catches the devil in its web.
Not even Spider-Man can dodge every attack, and he is faster, much more agile and has a better warning system.
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