im sorry but if homosexual undertones make you that uncomfortable you have serious sexual issues that either your scared you are gay or you are just way too self concious
troy and king arthur had some cool action scene and were pop corn flick they both messed up thier respective stories A LOT.. if you arnt interested in a historical story alexander isnt for you i suppose.. and i do think they went a bit far with the hephastion and alexander relationship and could have shortened it by about 20 minutes and the general public would have liked it a lot more but thats not how oliver stone works and i respect that
I am not scared of it I am againt it.I am not saying however that this lawsuit is good however.I think it is plain sillly.Also I don't know anything about Alexander so I can't say if he was gay or not.JM
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ummmmmmmm........hey forumcrew why don't you go back and re-read my post. I never said I was bothered by the homosexuality in the movie however the 3 groups of people that left during the movie probably were. I didn't like it because I thought that it was way too long and tiresome, the dialouge was laughable, collin farrel was terrible, bad script, oh yeah- and it was boring.
Also------- forumcrew I do appreciate the accusations, thanks
Last edited by paulengel on Nov 26th, 2004 at 05:06 AM
I just got back from the theater and i must say... SAVE YOUR MONEY...
its a movie to rent when there is nothing else. This film doesn't live up to the hype, and the homosexuality played a larger role than what i would've thought. There were 2 main battles, and in one of them, everything turns pink! that was just weird...
are you talking about me? i didnt say anything offensive
this movie is pearl harbors equal, it completely missed the point......alexanders life is in war, from 19 till his death he went from war to war, and there were only two war scenes in the movie, they completely skipped the middle wars that were so amazing!! man, that sucks i was looking forward to a war-filled movie, the little war scenes they had were amazing though, but it wasnt worth all the other stuff
I personally really enjoyed the movie
I liked the battles and the in between dialogue and story. And having done ancient Greece and Alexander recently in World History class, I found it to be quite accurate, maybe a little Hollywoodized, but none the less very nice.
And JM I know for a fact, Alexander was bi-sexual not just gay. And I personally could say I wouldn't mind if they had delved into that aspect of his life more. It was completely acceptable of the time, and it was a part of his life.
What bothers me most is I was browsing the user reviews for Alexander on www.imdb.com and it really bothers me that the lowest ratings it received were from an older crowd of about middle agers. I think in my opinion it has alot to do with their open mindness.
I personally applaud Oliver Stone, Collin Farrell, Jared Leto, and anyone else involved in showing Alexander's sexuality, at least they didn't completely exclude that because they were afraid of back lash.
I'd just like to say if such minor scenes make you that un-comfortable, you need to examine your sexuality more than anything
Also I liked the time frames they used, and the flashbacks and cinematography of the film.
Overall I thoroughly enjoyed this movie, and will not only see it again, but plan on buying the DVD.
And I found the acting to be excellent I think people should ignore the critics and nay-sayers and see the film for themselves and make their own decisions based on it.
If you're going to comment on accents at least get it right
All of greece did not have one universal accent to start with seeing as there were different parts of greece which all had a little different dialect.
Not to mention these people were Macedonian to start with.
thanks for being one of the few people to back me up silver tears i think people are either too closed minded about the movie or thought they were going to see a war movie and got a good historical story and were upset about it.. i think they did a fine job the movie just isnt for the general public who loves explosions and and movies that revolve around fx rather then story
Even though I personally think that the battles were excellent
However having a small knowledge of Alexander that I do, I appreciated the movie for the history as well, not the bloody battles, or the costumes
That is why I think Alexander is better than Troy.
So you're saying americans and scots lived in greece at that time. thats kind of hard to believe
Ok this is getting out of hand. Apparently, according to forumcrew and yourself (silvertears), if you didn't like the movie (which I didn't) then you obviously must have sexual issues. Thats pretty close minded in itself. Just because I definitely hated the movie and thought that it was a steaming pile of crap, it doesn't mean I'm gay---what it does mean is that I have a different opinon than you. No need for attacks.
No I'm saying there is no one universal accent throughout. So therefore, they would have sounded different. Not to mention for it to be completely accurate they would have to actually speak the foreign language and no english at all.
Also maybe if there were reasons as to why you disliked the movie other than simple minded sentences such as "It's a steaming pile of crap..." reasons to back it up would be nice. And my statement about sexuality was a general statement, not directed at you, you chose to take it that way
i didnt direct it at anyone either and all i said was if it made you uncomfortable you may have issues as i said many times this movie isnt for everyone you have to be somewhat into history and wanna see a story.. and like ST said it is annoying when people just say it sucks or its crap without reasoning dont bother posting in a review thread if you cant give people reasons because it isnt helpfull to anyone
once again please go back and read my posts------ I gave reasons why I didn't like this movie -- I don't know why you think I didn't give any reasons. Here I'll make it easy for you---
I'll go a little further for you also. There was little given info on the significance or the actual outcome of each battle. Both times, each side just kind of stopped, and that was it. Second, the symbolism of the snakes and the eagles was WAY over the top AND it didn't really lead to much of a logical conclusion to the casual viewer. Also, great epics need to have some sort of grand sweep, especially during their battles (see Return of the King). These battles were disjointed and relatively small in their overall scope.
And forumcrew, its hard to not think you were speaking to me when you used my exact words in your post
I wrote.........
Forumcrew wrote......
Am I right in thinking this way or am I not getting something? you tell me forumcrew and ST
you said you thought people left for that reason i was speaking about those people... and i can fully understand your reasons for not liking the movie. I def think some things could have been done differently and it could have been a little shorter to make it a more entertaining movie for the average viewer but i did enjoy the story as is, althought its not a great movie i enjoyed the story and id recomend it to people who are interested in that sort of story or history buffs
He was bi-sexual, not homosexual
He did have three wives
Personally for me the hours flew by, I was very into it.
I was upset that I had to go to the bathroom and missed some parts
The only thing I would have done different, is I would have included the battle of Thebes, where Alexander first shows his military strength and ability to rule.
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Nov 25th, 2004 05:29 PM
I think people should ignore the critics and nay-sayers and see the film for themselves and make their own decisions based on it.
good film. Troy was better. All n All i give this movie a 9/10. 
