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stormfront13
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i don't see hoe spider man cn win

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If spiderman can take a hit from Hulk and keep fighting (he's done this many times),
then I highly doubt ONE HIT is all She-Hulk will need....

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He can't. Unless there's an environmental factor that would somehow put the odds in his favor. (Like a nuclear warhead) Spider-Man would not be able to defeat She-Hulk. Any hits sustained would be shrugged off. She would get start to get annoyed and angrier by the minute. She would be stronger and more durable. Spidey really can't win unless Lady Luck is on is side.


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quote:
Originally posted by Zahit
If spiderman can take a hit from Hulk and keep fighting (he's done this many times),
then I highly doubt ONE HIT is all She-Hulk will need....


Spidey took a glancing blow from the Hulk. (More of a slap, really/his spider-sense enabled him to dodge the full brunt of the blow). Spidey has enhanced durability. Bullets hurt him. But against a person with Thing+ strength, Spidey would certainly go down with one good hit.


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Did you forget Titania - roughly She-Hulk level ? He OWNED Titania. And when he suckerpunched She-Hulk, her jaw still hurt a few hours later lol.

Don't see the big problem here.


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Originally posted by Draco69
And your point is? You're assuming there are environmental factors that would somehow aid Spider-Man. Like a bottomless pit of cement.

She-Hulk is invulnerable enough to withstand anything Spider-Man throws at her. Grammatical supposition doesn't fly here. Her healing factor would only help .


Erm, considering no absolute parameters were set for this battle, I'm correct in assuming that "environmental factors" COULD aid Spiderman.

No she isn't "invulnerable enough to withstand anything Spider-Man throws at her."

~>!~!>~>!~>~!>~>!Yes her eyes are pretty durable she once got shot in the eye with a high-caliber rifle. It hurt her<~<~!!!!~!~!~!~

I guess we'll also assume that Spiderman will simply attempt to punch her in the chest.

"Grammatical supposition?" LoL, talk about a syntactic non sequitur.

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Originally posted by who?-kid
Did you forget Titania - roughly She-Hulk level ? He OWNED Titania. And when he suckerpunched She-Hulk, her jaw still hurt a few hours later lol.

Don't see the big problem here.


Titania is nowhere near She-Hulk's level. She's about Class 50. She-Hulk was Class 75. She-Hulk is now Class 100.

The battle you mentioned was probably bad writing. It doesn't make sense for a Class 10 ton character to actually hurt a Class 100 character. It's like saying Spidey can hurt Hercules or the Thing.


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i didn't add the webbing the eyes as a way spider-man could win, he'd just use it to distract her while he gets behind her and cracks her in the head a few times with the heaviest, most solid piece of "the environment" that he can find............ and the iron man thing was a joke........ but the gas thing wasn't


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Originally posted by Never
Erm, considering no absolute parameters were set for this battle, I'm correct in assuming that "environmental factors" COULD aid Spiderman.

No she isn't "invulnerable enough to withstand anything Spider-Man throws at her."

~>!~!>~>!~>~!>~>!Yes her eyes are pretty durable she once got shot in the eye with a high-caliber rifle. It hurt her<~<~!!!!~!~!~!~

I guess we'll also assume that Spiderman will simply attempt to punch her in the chest.

"Grammatical supposition?" LoL, talk about a syntactic non sequitur.


There were no parameters set. GalacticStorm just said "Discuss". That's it. It's redudunt to say that Spidey can use an environmental factor to defeat She-Hulk. I can just as well say that She-Hulk can use the "Cosmic Cube to decimate Spidey. It's circular logic.

She-Hulk has taken hits from Count Nefaria. A punch in the stomach by Spider-Man is not going to hurt her.


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LoL, talk about a syntactic non sequitur. "


Translation: I'm a sore loser


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Originally posted by Draco69
Titania is nowhere near She-Hulk's level. She's about Class 50. She-Hulk was Class 75. She-Hulk is now Class 100.

The battle you mentioned was probably bad writing. It doesn't make sense for a Class 10 ton character to actually hurt a Class 100 character. It's like saying Spidey can hurt Hercules or the Thing.

There were no parameters set. GalacticStorm just said "Discuss". That's it. It's redudunt to say that Spidey can use an environmental factor to defeat She-Hulk. I can just as well say that She-Hulk can use the "Cosmic Cube to decimate Spidey. It's circular logic.


First, Class 50? No. Heh, not even close.

Strength Level: Extremely high. Possibly the strongest woman in the Marvel Universe. Can lift 85 tons. <------

Comparable to She-Hulk level as w-k opined.

And because you can LIFT 100 tons means you cannot be hurt????

How often has She-Hulk had the CC? More like straight-line idiocy.

Sore loser -- because one effortlessly debunks your sophomoric attempts at logic?

Again?

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Originally posted by Draco69
Titania is nowhere near She-Hulk's level. She's about Class 50. She-Hulk was Class 75. She-Hulk is now Class 100.

The battle you mentioned was probably bad writing. It doesn't make sense for a Class 10 ton character to actually hurt a Class 100 character. It's like saying Spidey can hurt Hercules or the Thing.


he probably could "hurt" them in the same way a toddler would "hurt" an adult if he (or she) were to kick one in the face........... wouldn't seriously hurt....... but it would "hurt"....... and who knows what would happen if that was repeated a hundred or more times


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Originally posted by Draco69
There were no parameters set. GalacticStorm just said "Discuss". That's it. It's redudunt to say that Spidey can use an environmental factor to defeat She-Hulk. I can just as well say that She-Hulk can use the "Cosmic Cube to decimate Spidey. It's circular logic.


fair enough, no environment was mentioned, but the most likely place for this match to occur would be new york city (as spidey is pretty much always there) ....... with lot's of buildings and cars around......... and very few cosmic cubes


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i didn't add the webbing the eyes as a way spider-man could win, he'd just use it to distract her while he gets behind her and cracks her in the head a few times with the heaviest, most solid piece of "the environment" that he can find............ and the iron man thing was a joke........ but the gas thing wasn't


Where the hell is Spidey gonna find a gas powerful enough to knock out She-Hulk? She was once shot by Mr. Fantastic with a tranquilzer powerful enough to put down three bull elephants. The tranquilzer didn't work. Like I said to Never, I can just as easily say that She-Hulk uses an "environmental piece" like the Cosmic Cube to defeat Spidey. It's nonsensical.

Spider-Man can lift 10 tons. A ten ton object ain't gonna hurt She-Hulk.

Good Lord. The amount of Spidey Fanboys here are staggering.


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quote:
Originally posted by Draco69
Titania is nowhere near She-Hulk's level. She's about Class 50.

Back in Secret Wars, she was much stronger than Class 50 !! She was a real powerhouse. Don't know her strength level now though.


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fair enough, no environment was mentioned, but the most likely place for this match to occur would be new york city (as spidey is pretty much always there) ....... with lot's of buildings and cars around......... and very few cosmic cubes


A car isn't going to hurt She-Hulk. She'd either catch it or shatter it with one hand. Spider-Man cannot lift buildings. Even if he could, burying her under a building wouldn't work. She was buried under a mountain once. She got out.


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Originally posted by who?-kid

Back in Secret Wars, she was much stronger than Class 50 !! She was a real powerhouse. Don't know her strength level now though. [/B]


Not according to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: 2004


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Back in Secret Wars, she was much stronger than Class 50 !! She was a real powerhouse. Don't know her strength level now though.


In Secret Wars it was EXPLICITLY stated that she was Class 85 (85 tons), so he defeated a Class 85 character.

Handily.

And within She-Hulk was trashed.

Handily.

And the question remains, because you can BENCH 100 tons means you cannot be hurt?

*snort*

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Id say She hulk would win this one. Yeah spideys taken out a lot of people way stronger than him such as the Rhino and hes stood his ground against the hulk but neither of them could be called smart. She hulk retains her intelligence in her hulk form unlike her cousin she is now easily stronger than the rhino. So id say she'd probably b the smartest class 100 person he'd have gone up against. Spidey cant really do any major damage to her only annoy her and evade her attacks. But then she hulks hardly slow is she. She has her cousins abilities but to a lesser extent kinda like polaris and mags. She can leap hundreds of feet into the air she can create shockwaves with her hands. Im not saying she'd def win but it seems more than likely


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Originally posted by Never
In Secret Wars it was EXPLICITLY stated that she was Class 85 (85 tons), so he defeated a Class 85 character.

Handily.

And within She-Hulk was trashed.

Handily.

And the question remains, because you can BENCH 100 tons means you cannot be hurt?

*snort*


The story is most likely trash. Spidey was wearing the symbiote suit at the time. He's strength was greatly enhanced.

Once again, you're ignoring that She-Hulk is TWICE her strength. And that's an estimation. At the FF4 tower, Mr. Fantastic tested her strength. She maxed out the Thing's maximum strength potential...with ONE ARM.


She-Hulk has taken hits from Count Nefaria, the Hulk, Thor, Wonder-Man, and several powerful foes. She has also withstood cannon-fire, energy blasts from Warbird, Crystal, Storm, and even Thor Girl. And she got right back up. She's pretty tough.


Come on guys, use some common sense. Spidey is out of his league.


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Id say She hulk would win this one. Yeah spideys taken out a lot of people way stronger than him such as the Rhino and hes stood his ground against the hulk but neither of them could be called smart. She hulk retains her intelligence in her hulk form unlike her cousin she is now easily stronger than the rhino. So id say she'd probably b the smartest class 100 person he'd have gone up against. Spidey cant really do any major damage to her only annoy her and evade her attacks. But then she hulks hardly slow is she. She has her cousins abilities but to a lesser extent kinda like polaris and mags. She can leap hundreds of feet into the air she can create shockwaves with her hands. Im not saying she'd def win but it seems more than likely


Finally. Someone to back me up.


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