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REVELATION: Darth Maul was Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas
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Jazzman_78
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Didn't Lucas say that the person who ordered the clones was on-screen in AOTC? My money's on Dooku.


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Balcomus Prime
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Could Sifo Dias have been Qui Gon? He died. He didn't disappear like a normal Jedi so he might have been a "spy". He also was a major supporter of Anakin.

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Darth Jello
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I think the name Khameir Sarin is from the comics. It's not from Supershadow if that's what you guys are gonna say, it was revieled as Sarin way before that dickhole ever posted it.
Lucas never said that the guy who ordered the clones was in episode II, he only said that the traitor who erased Kamino was in episode II. That would be Dooku. Sifo Dias will be seen in that visionaries comic since his blood supposedly was transfused into Grievous. He's a human jedi with short hair and a pointy "van dyke with no moustache" goatee.


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Darth_Nefarus
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It was Dooku, he had the resources and skills to get every part of Palpatine's plan finished up to that point.


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Da_Guru
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Originally posted by woman_beater69
Here's the Dialogue found that's from the movie...
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PALPATINE: " It is unavoidable Anakin. it is your destiny"

ANAKIN: " I know master... but it's just hard, the jedi have been like family to me... especially Obi-Wan"

PALPATINE: "Do not let your emotions blind you to the truth Anakin. They used you and deceived you and now... they have betrayed you"

ANAKIN: "Your right. I am sorry master. I know I should not argue with you"

PALPATINE: "Do not worry Anakin, you remind me of myself when I was your age. You also remind me of my old apprentice... Jedi master Sifo Dyas"

ANAKIN: (shocked) "Sifo Dyas? But he was a leading member of the jedi council... one of the best in the order!"

PALPATINE: "So are you Anakin... so are you."

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PS: Maul is a creature. He's just a tattood creature.



Well all I can say to that revelation is **** ME!!! Now that Ive heard that heres my conclusion Sidious has 2 apprentices both Maul and Dyas however since Dyas is also a double agent reporting all the jedi councils acts toi Sidious he really is only like a half apprentice since he has to spend most of his time with the jedi council so really he is only like a half sith. therefore while he spends all his time with the jedi council sidious trains Maul then maul dies and then when he starts training dooku dyas orders the clone army but dooku and sidious might get weary of dyas and might think they will betray them and reveal palpatines real identity to the republic therefore dooku kills him or now the visionarys have confirmed it he is not actually killed but frozen by dooku.

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*slaps guru*

i have a reason but its too much for me to type in 1 post


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LinixCobra
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I think George meant to hint that Dooku ordered the army seeing how he was a top jedi.... but then again Dooku left the jedi about 20 yrs before EP1


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Tormentor_2004
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I read a book called Darthh Maul's Journal. It was cool. Sidious trained him when he was a baby. So that's impossible


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HyperDream
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"We all have to remember that Lucas made all this as he went along....
...so there will be discepencies. "


oh....okay....

"Wow, that sounds a lot like EXPANDED UNIVERSE TO ME.

but...
IN THE MOVIE MAUL'S A MYSTERY.

Sifo Dyas "WAS" on the council. He died during Phantom Menace though. Obviously he must have left the council, probably before that Naboo crap happened.

But expanded universe...
*shudder*

I don't know...

Remember when people thought Owen was Obiwan's brother?
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so what you're saying was that maul was on the council and disguised himself as a jedi leader. no, not possible, the jedi arent that stupid.


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whoah! .: Space Opera :., where you been bud?


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Pogel
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In AOTC Obi Wan says that he's "under the impression he was killed before that" (ordering the army).

I think this clearly states somebody was impersonating Sifo Dias.
Also, if he was a "leading member of the jedi council", we would have seen him in E1.

Obviously, someone lied to the Kaminoans. Dooku recruited Fett and Sidous never acts in person (till ROTS), so I guess it was Dooku.

While that might not be true, I think it's obvous it's a scam.


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darthsinister
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I totally agree with Pogel, somebody must have impersonated Sifo Dias to the Kaminos, my guess it was either Darth Maul or Anakin, it had to be some force user with a lightsaber otherwise the Kaminos would have been suspicious of him! I don't think it was Count Dooku cause when Obi Wan interogates Jango Fett, Jango admits he was recruteted by a man called Tyrannus (Dooku) but he says he never heard of a Sifo Dias, so why would he tell the truth first and lie later, doesnt make sense to me...

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DenKi
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I "Really" do hope they explane more in Episode 3.

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J-Unit
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Youre Not Thinking Correct....Someone Ordered The Clones On Sifo Dyas Name But Is Wasn't Sify Dyas Himself...Do U Understand...I Think It Was One Of Three Characters In The Movie Who Ordered Them

1: Dooku 50%

2: Darth Sidious 50%

3: Grievous 20 - 30% (Since He Was In AOTC On Geonosis Who Knows If He Wasn't In The Phantom Meance At This Point.)

No One Else Could Be Sifo Dyas Except Them So ENOUGH!!!!


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MistaMandalore
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If you read LoE they explain that Sifo Dyas did order the clones and he was just a Jedi master who was Dooku's closest friend..than Dooku had to kill him as a test...or something like that.


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Ushgarak
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As ever, this theory is utterly ridiculous- there is no way Maul would not have been recognised for who he is.

This is sheer fanboyism, an issue that has plagued the Sifo-Dyas question from square one, as peolle try and find increasingly unlikely candidates for the position, from Qui-Gon to Maul to, no doubt, Kitster.


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KITSTER!!!!!!?!??!? laughing out loud

haven't read that one...oh man
what will they come up with next
roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Gangularis
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next time you wanna NOT post a (possible) spoiler in the title of your topic..??

this is stuff i would not want to know if it's true.

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morgan01
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general grievous

the general is not part of the conspiracy, he has no idea about palps plot. That is why he is disapointed when Dooku tells him he cannot kill palps only kidnap him, so 0% it was the general. Dooku most likely ordered the army.

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ImperialPEZ
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Where did that quote come from ***link please*** because I just finished listening to the entire ROTS Novel and that is not in there.


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