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Cosmic Cube
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Originally posted by kgkg
lol Property of Iceman , all life has cosmic signature

Superman can see cells etc


Thing is, he wouldn't be cells. He would be water droplets like those in the air.

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The whole moisture inversion theory is dubious and speculative at best.
Kryptonian physiology is vastly different than human. This theory is on the premise that Supe's molecular and cellular make up are close to human physiology which it isn't at all.
So I personally would reject that idea.

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The whole moisture inversion theory is dubious and speculative at best.
Kryptonian physiology is vastly different than human. This theory is on the premise that Supe's molecular and cellular make up are close to human physiology which it isn't at all.
So I personally would reject that idea.


I am inclined to agree with you good sir

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I am inclined to agree with you good sir



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I'd have to take "full potential" Iceman in this fight. Supes innards ARE vulnerable. The simple fact that his body metabolizes oxygen and he can drink water and eat and metabolize food show that, and to my knowledge Supes has no healing factor. If he were to inhale Iceman, Iceman could just become one with Supes natural body fluids and freeze them internally. He could freeze the blood inside Supes heart as it pumped and there'd be nothing Kal El could do.


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Unless, of course, Kryptonian physiology is so alien they don't have blood or water in their bodies and don't need to metabolize air...


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Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
How did he beat Cythonna? shifty


Read the book. The point is..he beat her and she is far far above good ol' bobby. eek!

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Read the book. The point is..he beat her. eek!


Didn't have anything to do with a Kryptonite bomb supplied by Lex Luthor, did it? shifty

I'm just guessing here.

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Didn't have anything to do with a Kryptonite bomb supplied by Lex Luthor, did it? shifty

I'm just guessing here.


Nah, could be that whole solar power thing smile

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Nah, could be that whole solar power thing smile


roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Iceman would still win. [See reason above ^]


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roll eyes (sarcastic)


laughing

This from the man who said Darkseid and SS never fought. laughing

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laughing

This from the man who said Darkseid and SS never fought. laughing


You call Darkseid blasting Surfer in the back a fight? roll eyes (sarcastic)

I don't own the crossover. They seem to be your only (non-canon) source of info.

So how about that Kryptonite bomb, eh? You never mentioned that. The whole book, Superman is whining to Lois about how Cythonna makes him look like a b*tch. He beat her fair and square, eh?

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ALL I know for a fact is Batman and Dr whoever from Star Labs(I forgot his name) they both said at different times that Clark's physiology is nothing like a human. Yes he takes in air and has a circulatory system but it cannot be compared to humans. Deep space is about the coldest thing known to man and Supes goes to off world missions all the time.
Nobody can argue about physiology or attacks of that nature cuz the man is alien period. Debating that further would just be for the sake of arguing something pointless.

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You call Darkseid blasting Surfer in the back a fight? roll eyes (sarcastic)

I don't own the crossover. They seem to be your only (non-canon) source of info.

So how about that Kryptonite bomb, eh? You never mentioned that. The whole book, Superman is whining to Lois about how Cythonna makes him look like a b*tch. He beat her fair and square, eh?


Simple fact:

Kryptonian Ice goddess > Bobby

Ice powers did not affect Supes, everything else, she whooped Supes ass physically. He beat her..it wasnt fair at all since he had to fight her on the sun... Now Bobby is far, far below cythonna. What is he going to possibly do?


As for DS and SS... I cant call it a fight. DS beat a FULLY powerered Surfer far to easily. smile

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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Simple fact:

Kryptonian Ice goddess > Bobby

Ice powers did not affect Supes, everything else, she whooped Supes ass physically. He beat her..it wasnt fair at all since he had to fight her on the sun... Now Bobby is far, far below cythonna. What is he going to possibly do?


As for DS and SS... I cant call it a fight. DS beat a FULLY powerered Surfer far to easily. smile


Two words: Kryptonite Bomb. big grin

Surfer was fully powered? Crossovers are full of BS aren't they? wink

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Two words: Kryptonite Bomb. big grin

Surfer was fully powered? Crossovers are full of BS aren't they? wink


Funny, some are some aren't. Thats why the rules don't say ALL crossovers are bad. I guess you know more than John Byrne..the man who revamped Supes, and knew SS creators?laughing

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Kryptonite bomb, AND fighting on the core of the sun. Get it right buddy.

Now..do you believe bobby to be as powerful as cythonna?

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Funny, some are some aren't. Thats why the rules don't say ALL crossovers are bad.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Kryptonite bomb, AND fighting on the core of the sun. Get it right buddy.

Now..do you believe bobby to be as powerful as cythonna?

You call that a fight attacking SS from the back when he is not expecting it?

Well in that crossover Orion’s attacks had no effect, or than annoy him, SS treated him like a child

Orion = Superman

And darkseid has trouble with Orion in battles

as for this battle i don't know much about Ice man


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Funny, some are some aren't. Thats why the rules don't say ALL crossovers are bad. I guess you know more than John Byrne..the man who revamped Supes, and knew SS creators?laughing

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Kryptonite bomb, AND fighting on the core of the sun. Get it right buddy.

Now..do you believe bobby to be as powerful as cythonna?



Darkseid harming Surfer with the Omega Effect is not happening, even if he did sneak up on him. That would make the crossover non-canon.

You never mentioned a Kryptonite Bomb. Doesn't matter. Cythonna was weakened. Superman wasn't. Not a fair fight. big grin

Do you recall me saying that Bobby would win?

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You call that a fight attacking SS from the back when he is not expecting it?

Well in that crossover Orion’s attacks had no effect, or than annoy him, SS treated him like a child

Orion = Superman

And darkseid has trouble with Orion in battles

as for this battle i don't know much about Ice man


Can iceman freeze the earth, or hurt beings who survive planet destroying blasts? Coud he survive on the sun?

Do you know more than John Byrne?

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