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Spiderman, Venom and Carnage goes through the gauntlet...TOGETHER!
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K3VIL
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Are you talking about the Professor Hulk - Spider-Man fight ? When Hulk was possessed and so ? If so, Hulk was even stronger than normal, and though Spider-Man lost - which is normal - he sure held his own for a good while.

Throw in Venom and Carnage, together with SM, and they really have the power needed to knock down Hulk. Hulk isn't unbeatable, and unlike Juggernaut, he certainly can be hurt.

Hulk can take them one by one, sure, but all three together ? I think the trio has a pretty good chance to beat him.

kid Hulk in Professor version has beat down the U-Foes, so both Savage or Prof. version will slaughter Spidey and his friends.Juggernaut pummeled the crap outta Venom, so can do Hulk.

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You should know better than to compare battles. Each battle has its own situation. The fact that Professor Hulk beat the U-Foes (who I never took that seriously wink ) doesn't mean that much.

SM, Carnage and Venom have other powers, and the U-Foes aren't exactly the brightest of villains.


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Ironclad has Class 80 of strenght, high invulnerability, his reflexes are on par with Hulk, he can increase and decrease his mass, increasing it his durability reach further levels which granted him to show his own very well against Hulk, he's hella durable, and his stamina grants him to stay in combat for a long period of time.
X-Ray can project any form of radiation and fly under his own power.
Vapor can project any type of gas and exist in intangible form.
Vector telekinetically repel or attract matter, he was able to take off muscles and flesh from Professor Hulk who still managed to beat him.
Now if Professor Hulk, who is weaker than Savage Hulk in terms of strenght boost and durability can beat such an assemble of villains, Savage Hulk aided from Juggernaut will pummel the death outta Spider-Man and his symbiote friends.
Carnage body weapons aren't something Hulk can't handle, and a sonic boom caused from a hand clap will cause serious damage to his symbiote and that of Venom, then two fists will K.O. them.
Spider-Man sooner or later will fall against Hulk, even going all out he can't keep to fight at those levels too much, Hulk need only 1shot for each one of them.

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Venom and Carnage have been depowered lately but with the help of "spider writers" they can get to the wet brothers. Really i see them having problems all the way through.

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I say they win all of these matches...you guys are really underestimating the combined versatility, strength, and outworldy attacks the symbiotes can conjure up with spiderman on their side..they take this gauntlet for sure.


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They get by Hulk and Juggernaut thats far fetched don't you think.


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not really....alot of people go on to say how badly juggs beat up on venom....well yeah he did...but it took a loooooong beating to even really hurt venom....the second time they fought venom booted the crap out of him and made juggy run away....venom also took a few hulk hits and remained pretty unfazed.....I mean all they have to do to hulk is start pouring webbing and symbiote on him...I really don't think it would be that hard to beat these guys if they are all 3 working together...


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Yep they are hard to beat working with each other but still Hulk and Juggs I have a hard time with.
You have an issue number where Venom puncked Juggs like you said. Also were there some special circumstances going on or not.


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it happened in venom the madness number 3....circumstances?


well no not really...people that don't like to believe that it happened...try to play it off as if the madness mercury virus was still augmenting venom's powers...even though by that point it was already stated that it was nearly dead anyways by the time venom got back to juggs...juggs tried to fight him...venom kept hitting him before juggs could react...venom kicked him into a wall..juggs went out the other side and was saying he wasn't getting paid enough to take that kind of abuse, then he ran away....


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Actually I think Namor (fresh out of water) was stronger (80 tons).
Carnage only 11+ tons.


Carnage is stronger then venom and spidey together carnage can lift over fifty tons and hardly tires


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it happened in venom the madness number 3....circumstances?


well no not really...people that don't like to believe that it happened...try to play it off as if the madness mercury virus was still augmenting venom's powers...even though by that point it was already stated that it was nearly dead anyways by the time venom got back to juggs...juggs tried to fight him...venom kept hitting him before juggs could react...venom kicked him into a wall..juggs went out the other side and was saying he wasn't getting paid enough to take that kind of abuse, then he ran away....

I see now he hit Juggs before he could react i see. That changes a lot then. In that case Juggs still wins and Hulk does to.


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venom's symbiote is currently in the 30 to 35 ton range as well....


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I see now he hit Juggs before he could react i see. That changes a lot then. In that case Juggs still wins and Hulk does to.


I don't see how it changes anything....hulk can't keep from being tendriled, he suffocates and dies...the symbiotes don't have to even get close to him and aside from that hulk may as well be fighting air.

the most juggy can hope for is a stalemate..I don't see how he's going to beat 3 guys he can't touch.....


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Juggernaut if this is Juggernaut actually fighting to and not playing around could hurt these guys easily. It's called the Sonic Clap Hulk can do it Juggs has done it to.


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actually it's called a thunderclap....i'm just banking on the fact that it's going to be hard to clap when all webbed and symbioted up....if he manages to do so, spiderman can buy time to recover...


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If you think that web and stuff are gonna stop him your mistaken. Also if you think about it if he has his force field up he can still do his Thunder Clap and not get touched.


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he hardly EVER uses his force field he only does it under extreme amounts of pain or stress..you think carnage can't take off juggernaughts helmet with his symbiote? after that it's time for symbiote induced nightmares and they take the win.


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and no the webbing and such can't stop him but it can sure as hell slow his ass down..


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yup....completely ignore when spidey beat juggs by himself....when venom beat juggs by himself, have you read spidey 16 or x-force ?

juggernaught- "you know you're not going to be able to beat me so just pack it in a give me a break"

spiderman-"did france give up in world war II? did custer walk away from the little big horn? DID (heck I can't think of anymore)

oh yeah, okay DID I give up last time I fought you?!




NO!"


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