Does the "infinity punch" wear him out? Would he be able to continue to deliver these over and over without exhaustion? It seems like he has to go to a lot of trouble to deliver punches with similar power to hulks normal punches. Besides, if he's hoping for a KO he's going to need to jump up to hit Hulk in the head. Wouldn't he ricochette away after contact and end up in space considering the speed he's traveling at?
No because Flash doesn't hit you, the energy does, and as he's mainlined to the speedforce, he's in near complete control of it as he can manipulate and even share many of it's benefits. He could also touch Hulk and steal all of his particles' energy, leaving him motionless aand helpless. And yes he can do it without exhaustion.
I don't like Flash vs fights, because even not powered up... if he brings his full range of powers, he's next to unbeatable by anyone but the most powerful of characters.
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Wow. You're bringing up a lot of good arguments. Flash isn't going to KO Hulk by punching in the kneecap. Hulk's about 10 feet tall. He can hold his ground too. Vector's matter repulsion beam can move planets through space at the speed of light. But he couldn't move Hulk.
And Superman can smash planets into pieces, and he can trade blows toe to toe with a martian, and Flash punched one through space. ???
It still comes down to the fact that Hulk has no real way to deal with an opponent like Flash, and Flash .. if need, could still drag him to the end of time.
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.
This power seems pretty rediculous. In this case, Hulk jumps up to the moon, jumps back full force and slams into the earth so hard the atmoshphere catches fire incinerates the Flash.
Besides, the "speed force" may not work on Hulk. He has proven several times that he is not subject to the laws of physics. For example, he can change trajectory in mid air with nothing to bounce off of.
I don't think all the Flash's horsemen or all Flash's men could put Flash together again once he tires or trips and gets hit just once.
Superman doesn't smash planets into peices at his normal strength levels. He's not even strong enough to move War World at his base strength. Besides, he ususally holds back against villains.
I highly doubt that the white Martian that was imitating Zum had super-strength.
That doesn't change the fact that Huk was able to remain unmoved by a force that can propel planets at the speed of light. He was even able to walk forward through it.
I'm pretty sure this was a moon of Jupiter, which are planet Earth sized, I might add.. but even if I'm remembering wrong, it doesn't really matter how much thicker it is, enough force to do that he's doing he could easily continue through regardless, because size doesn't reflect density.
All white Martians have super strength, they have a standard powerset exactly like Martian Manhunters but a few minor changes, like their shape changing works different.
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These are Flash's everyday skills, and can use them. That's what I'm saying. He's not especially powered up when doing these feats of time travel, ftls, infinite mass punch, stealing kinetic energy... Flash is a static character so could use any of these things.
You were saying Flash can't hop into the speedforce at will, just because he doesn't always...and in fact he CAN in comics, and this battle.
That's one of Saturn's moons. Saturn's largest moon, Titan, has a mass of about 150 quadrillion tons, and it has a diameter of about 3,200 miles. Mostly composed of ice with a mean density of about 1.88. The Earth is about three or four times denser, and it has the mass of about 100 Titans..
None of Jupiter's moons or Saturn's moons are earth-sized. There are no moons in the solar system that are the size of Earth. Still avery impressive on Superman's part.
White Martians are considerably weaker than Green Martians. There aren't any white Martians that are as strong as Jonn'.
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wow, cc -- you're working overtime lately! go hulk!!
ps-i'd love to jump in, but i HATE flash threads!! all this infinity punch crap and dragging to the ends of time . . . and frabkly, i don't know enough about flash to be able to attempt to debunk all this crap.
i do have one question though -- if flash has all these abilities, how does captain boomerang and captain cold beat his ass at times?
Hah! You hate Flash threads? I think they should be banned. Either he's too fast to be fought, or he's God.
That's just PIS. Flash doesn't often grace villains with the honor of being defeated by him, so he avoids using his true God-like potential in every fight.
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