Registered: May 2005
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Lightsaber fights can't be realistic because their is no weapon in the real world matching a lightsaber.
- a lightsaber has no weight
- it can be used as slash or thrust weapon
- it can simply cut through people or pierce through them even if you have no real "power" behind you hits.
So I have to agree with Janus at the point what lightsaber styles should look like: one-handed fencing.
On the other handside there is a reason to use two-handed strikes: Generate more physical energy. Medieval swords could simply brake bones by hitting somebody even when not being sharp. And if you use fencing styles you have a problem again: Fencing relies pretty much on thrusting. Giving somebody a thrust with a lightsaber is not very effective because of immediate cauterization. You give them a thrust-wound and they won't bleed. I always wondered how Maul did kill Qui-Gon by stabbing his abdomen. You can put opponents out of the fight with that (see what Dooku did to Obi-Wan in AotC) but even Dooku relies on slashing movements sometimes (cutting Anakins arm off and when he wanted to kill Obi-Wan).
And again this would look unrealistic because there is no weapon that can be used as fencing AND slash weapon at least not powerful enough to cut some limbs off.
So lightsaber fights can't look realistic because of the nature of lightsabers AND because of the nature of the opponents. We're talking about people with superhuman reflexes that can "predict" the future to a certain degree. Yoda can spin around like that because he knews where his opponents next attack will land.
And the last point: Star Wars is entertainment. If this fights would look "realistical" it would be quite boring. Ever watched a fencing fight ?
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Why more physical energy with both hands !? The damage will be the same independently of the strengh of put in the strike, you just need to make the blade pass through the body of the enemy. Anyway I agree it would look like a different type of fencing since it can cut to every side, has small weight, and such...
You say the Jedi should do more parry, precise strike and whatever but none of the Jedi were basically trained to fight another lightsaber user because most of their foes use blasters. Jedi use two hands base on the form they learned. Form 2 is the closest to fencing and is bested used in lightsaber duels which Count Dooku knew.
Registered: Feb 2005
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Uh, you obviously don't get the point- ideally they should never need to use two hands since there's no weight to counter in the blade.
Second, two handed is really only neccessary for saber locks and bracing against attacks. Oops... here's Dooku dispelling that apparently...
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Note he's casually defending Obi and Anakin's last chop with one hand. The Force obviously aids his blade.
And Nai, I have seen quite a few fencing matches. Some were very good and engaging. I prefer combat where people concentrate on killing one another quickly and not on flashy overblown BS myself.
If you watch, all Jedi duelists aim for the other's lightsaber, not the opponent's body. Also, Jedi usually come within idiotically close and within the range of the opponent's lightsaber and still remains untouched. Real fights are short, utilizing as little energy as possible to perform maneuvers, and are at a WAY slower pace. Imagine you and your enemy both have weapons that can be swung as fast as your wrist, both weapons of the same length. Are you going to rush headfirst into a swing without thinking?
I guess it must be the Force which enhances their judgement, reflexes and speed.
But yeah, you watch any PT duel especially, you notice that they don't aim for the opponents body, always for their blade. At least in the OT you had them going at each other like Vikings.
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Nov 5th, 2005 02:22 AM
