When has 616 colossus given Juggernaut a good fight? The only single fight I remeber them having by themselsves was the one in the Bar and Juggernaut knocked him out then too.
This isn't a rip on colossus jsut saying Juggeranut has already proven to be more than he can handle.
If this is Classic Juggernaut, Juggernaut wins in 2 punches....because yes, Ult. Colossus is stronger than 616 Colossus, but 616 Colossus went down from Classic Juggernaut in one punch....so at max Ultimate Colossus will last one but get knocked out by the 2nd punch...Classic Juggernaut wins 10/10.
If it's Current Juggernaut, it's a very very close fight....i give it to Current Juggernaut 6/10.
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Uhm I'm sorry but what happened when Juggernaut brought he building down? The debris wasn't too heavy for Colossus to shake off and he was down for a good while. So either he was A)scared to continue the fight (not like Peter at all) or B) he was out. So yes Juggernaut did K.O him it just wasn't for very long.
He didn't do too bad but I wouldn't call that a good fight cause everytime he attacked Juggernaut pretty quickly turned it around and sent him packing.
Juggernaut said himself 616 Colossus could fight, and had heart, and Colossus wasn't knocked out Colossus was still looking to fight but Wolverine said the fight was over not Colossus. 616 Colossus took out Arkon, and stood toe to toe with gladiator so if Ultimate Colossus is stronger than his 616 counterpart he stands a good chance with Juggernaut. Remember though 616 Colossus was a farmes before he became a x men, but Ultimate Colossus was in the mob i'm sure he knows how to throw punches better than 616 Colossus at that point.
And 616 Colossus has been a x-man and been trained by someone who has skill comparable to that or even better than the top special forces in the world for several years.
You know that guy with Big force beams coming out of his eyes.
Not to mention Wolverine.
all that being said ultimate colossus gets run over by 616 Juggernaut
Why though I respect your opinion, but what do you base what you say off of. When Colossus fought Juggernaut he was youn, and thats why I saud at this point Ultimate Colossus could throw hands better than 616 Colossus. If your going to say Juggernaut will win please base it off something logical.
This is where Cain brings the house down. Notice who is laying down? If Colosus could dodge Cain's earlier attacks then why would he be laying like this while Cain takes even longer to tear the wall down? No he was either otu cold or playing dead. Then...
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Cain delivers his line gives Logan some money then walks of all of this before Colosuss even gets up. So once again if he was really looking ot keep fighting why would he wait for Juggernaut to leave efore getting up. So if you say that he is not unconcoius then you are saying that Colossu didn't want to continue the fight. So its either he was scared or he was out cold which is it?
why don't you post the whole fight, and not just the part where Juggernaut starts to win, because just showing that much makes it look like Colossus got whoped when he didnt. So please if you post something don't just post the part that supports your opinion.
Still thats just 616 Colossus when he was young, and Ultimate Colossus has proven to be stronger than his 616 counterpart.
where was he knocked out at point that out please.
Here is alogical reason. No one has knocked out the Juggeranut using blunt force trauma, which is Colossus only weapon. Not Hulk not Thor, not Stone Cutter or any of the other guys that he has faced. Most of these guys have strength feats exceeding anything that Ult. Colossus has ever done they have fought and beaten stronger opponents than Colossus and they weren't able to subdue Cain.
Thor has greater strength than Ult.Colossu as well as a host of other powers not to mention one of the few things that Juggernaut is vulnerable to, and that is powerful Magic. And yet he couldn't beat Juggernaut. colossus has never even gotten that close and Ult. Col whic is stronger (but not by as much as you think) has done nothing to indicate that he could do much better. He put up a decent fight but he still got manhandled.
Ult. Colossus should logically have nothing in terms of fighting skil agianst 616. 616 has been fighting for years before that fight with Juggeraunt. Training everyday with some of the best fighters around the X-Men. the other guy was in the mob. Not ecause he could fight but because he was invulnerable beign in the mob doens't mean he can fight.
I didn't post the wole fight because you kept insisting that Colossu doesn't get kncoked out so I jsut posted the parts wehre he is unconcious.
Look in the first picture seeing that shiny guy laying on the floor that is Colossus. He is laying down on his stomach limp he isn't kneeling or struggling to get up he is out. Then he doesn't get back up until after Juggeranut leaves.
So if he is still concoious then he is just scared to keep fightin other wise he would get up right?
So he was either out cold or he was scared your pick.
Well 616 Colossus dealt with She Hulk with ease, and they say She Hulk has he same strength as Hulk. Thor could not use magic against Juggernaut because Juggs suit is magic, and is magic resistant. Thor's power also weaver from writer to writer, and I have never seen Juggernaut or Hulk do something as amazing as pick up, hold and carry a 7000 ton subamarine miles away from shore. I have never seen them two do something like carry overcome 30,000 pounds of force.
Ultimate Colossus has shown to be stronger than his 616 counterpart, and 616 Colossus has defeated some good people on his own. Ultimate Thor defeated the whole Ultimate team, but got his ass handed to him by Colossus. Ironman in the same issue with his superspeed, nice guns, ability to fly, superstength, and super durability got taken out in a matter of seconds. Magneto with all his experiance, and being one of the strongest mutants in the world was taken out by Colossus, but yet he is still thought of as a middle rank mutant.
Colossus also shown he was resistant to magic when he fought Thor, because if he wouldn't have been he would have lost that fight.
Ultimate colossus = earth 616 Colossus<<<< Juggernaut. Juggernaut knock out Thor with a back hand, held his own against the hulk on more than one occassion. Even current juggernaut will beat ultimate colossus with breaking a swet.
WTF did he do in this fight you keep bringing up. Did thor Punch him which requires no Magic. Shoot lightning at him which we still don't know if it's real Magic or not. this is the Ultimate U. Some characters are stronger than there counterparts in the 616 but most are weaker like HULK Thor Iron man,Spider-man and even Magneto. Just because he took down those people in the Ultimate U doesn't mean he would achieve the same result in the Regular 616.
and what has 616 Hulk ever done thats so impressive? are you freaking serious?
Colossus from earht 616 is = Ultimate Colossus but when earth 616 colossus becomes enrage his strength jumps up like wonder man. Ultimate colossus is written differently then his counter part, if I'm not mistaken colossus from future pass knock a full size sentinel out of the building with one punch. And current colossus is getting stronger as he gets older.
Dude, shut up....u have absolutely NO IDEA wut ur talking about...30,000 pounds honestly is nothing...even the Thing has shown strength superior to that....
THE THING sent a whole 100,000 ton Battleship into space in one punch!
THOR lifted the Midgard Serpent which was so enormous that it wrapped itself around the earth several times!
HERCULES held the earth itself on his shoulders! has dragged Manhattan!
HULK has braced 150,000,000,000 tons of a Mountain for almsot a minute! has destroyed a meteor half the size of Earth with one punch!
JUGGERNAUT has punched holes thru dimensions! has had all his skin magically burnt off and kept coming! has *****-slapped Thor! Has knocked out The Thing in 3 shots! Has knocked out Colossus in one shot! Has beat the Hulk to within an inch of his life! Has gone toe-to-toe with War Hulk who was Hulk enhanced by Celestial Armor!
GLADIATOR lifted the Baxter Building! stood toe-to-toe with Thor who was going all out!
NAMOR consistently stands toe-to-toe with the Thing on land, and consistently beats him in the ocean! Has lifted 200,000 ton submarines!
ALL THESE GUYS, ESPECIALLY JUGGERNAUT, ARE FAR SUPERIOR TO ANY VERSION OF COLOSSUS.
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No offense, but those numbers you just put up are bullshit I wonder were you got them? from mabe your head. This is crazy one day these people are the shit the next there getting there ass whoped power changes between writers. Ultimate Colossus has been in less than 80 comics, and has done to bad ass shit he's just as strong as the people you put up. One writer will have a character struggling to pick up a car, and the next will have them picking up Jupiter, and Jupiter is a gas
planet.
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