Thanks alot spetznaz
But a lot of credit needs to go to demigawd, it took me almost a damn hour to make a team I thought could hold their own against his team. If he had limited it to the 616 Universe X-men I don't think it would be possible.
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Problem with this one is, Flash as a member of the JLA has undergone training by Martian Manhunter to help resist the telepathic assaults. Not to mention that Martian Manhunter himself is there as well and could easily offer protection from this.
Scarlet Witch can't mess up his connection to the Speedforce, Nothing can. It can happen to any other Speedforcer, but not Wally, he's MAINLINED [actual comic term] to the Speedforce and can't be cut from it.
As well, Zatanna, as by the thread starter, can simply tell most of your team to die.
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Juggernaut's a good start....but you'd need something crazy to help him in the speed department.
Can SW slow down time? There's no easy answer for Flash...especially with full PIS mode on.
That's what you get for pitting X-Men against them. Now if a real team (coughauthoritycough) were to face them, my boy Jeroen could take out half the team before you can say "heroin addict". lol
I have Merged X-man (with telepathic powers that may rival Galactus), Pheonix Jean, Pheonix Rachel, Professornaut, Shaman Xman, and god-like Cable; that *should* be enough to stop any tp attack my Martian Manhunter and overcome any resistance training.
Remember that this was only the first attack my team would make (i.e. take out the Flash in the first second or so) and demigawd has set it up so that my team is ambushing the JLA so they wouldn't know what is happening until after the first attack.
I'm going to get to Zatanna and MM.
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GL can still also shield from any telepathic attack. If you look at his respect thread, he battled and defeated a guy who mentally dominated an entire galaxy. If he sets his ring as such, it won't be broken.
Not to mention Martian Manhunter and/or GL could probably rerout the whole operation into Wonder Woman's mind and your team mind****s themselves for trying.
Any portion of a picasecond is enough time for Flash to tap the speedforce and share it with the entire team. At which point, it all goes downhill for you.
Last edited by Juntai on Feb 11th, 2006 at 03:31 AM
Perhaps I should write out my entire plan then people can see how I'd take out the rest of the JLA.
Now I've used suprise attack to take out Flash (btw the New Sun can also manipulate time as well as all types of kinetic energy makeing that easier). So now the JLA has Superman
Wonder Woman
Batman
Green Lantern Hal
Martian Manhunter
Plastic Man
Zatanna
Most importantly thanks to ME Rogue each of my team has been briefed on how their assigned opponet will fight and respond to their attacks.
Remember that my team is still behind the Magneto/Professornaut sheid, so they now have to attack (this is where the preptime really comes inhandy. Professornaut will remain with merged X-man, New Sun, and Scarlet Witch to provide both a physical haven, a counter to MM's telepathy, a drain away some of their superspeed, and magic attacks.
First Zantanna- I would have Super Skrull Rogue (who didn't take part in the Flash attack so could have also attacked at the same time) will use the power of the invisible woman to create and burst a force bubble in Zantanna's throat (similar to Deathstroke's tactics) taking her out at the start.
Superman- I would send Queen Storm to face him. Since she has all of the powers of Thor she should be able to hang with Superman. That is all I need her to do as Magneto would be following her with some red-sunlight and K-nite radiation to take Superman down
Wonder Woman- Against her I would send Thor Rogue and ME Rogue. Again they are just there to hold her off until Superman is put down and Queen Storm and join in. Two Thor's and one Pre-cog Rogue should be enough to kill her.
Green Lantern- Against him I would send God like Cable, Shaman X-man, and Magneto (when he's done with Superman) also he would be the main target of Scarlet Witch's magic. As soon as WW is defeated Queen Storm would also help.
MM- against him I would send Pheonix Jean and Skrull Rogue (as she has already taken out Zantanna). Espically with the power of the Human Torch, Skrull Rogue and Jean should be albe to handle him. They would be aided by ME Rogue and Thor Rogue after WW goes down.
Plastic Man- I would send Pheonix Rachel to simply use her tk to eject him into space.
Batman- I'd have Iceman to freeze him, and then send him on to help one of the other groups.
Of couse as members of the JLA fall, my team would then conentrate on the remaining memebers.
All of their attacks would be quordinated by Merged X-man.
Also if Wonder Woman goes for the Godwave (which would kill most of her team) my team would be transported away by both Magneto and New Sun, only to come back and finish her off.
And finally my biggest weapon/PIS would be Lifeguard. As soon as any member of my team is in mortal danger, she would gain whatever power was needed to save them. So for example if the Flash was about to kill Scarlet Witch, Lifeguard would automatically be able to stop him. Or if WW tired the GodWave and we couldn't evacuate, Lifeguard would deveolp a power to save them.
Now this is roughly my plan and I reserve the right to change it if I've forgotten something major, but I think this would work.
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AH! But you forgot they can also pool willpower to GL for even more ridiculous feats as well!!
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hahaha....I didn't say that was the end all and be all of the strategy. Just something I threw out.
But it sounds like TheKhan has the JLA owned. Juntai looks like he's in some trouble...how can he respond to being ambushed and caught flatfooted? Is pre-cog one of the many plot device powers the JLA has? Is there anyone who can help poor Juntai???
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I usually make cerebral strategy threads because they're often my favorite. But I was pretty worried that nobody would respond (as is often the case on my threads, lol).
Onslaught
8th Day Juggernaut
Full power Nate Grey
Jean Phoenix
Rachel Phoenix
Storm Phoenix (from What If )
Exiles Mimic with Brood Powers (unlimited amount of power copying)
Full potential Ice-Man
Rogue With Thor's power + Hammer (from What If)
New Sun Gambit
Full Power Cable
Gladiator (he's teamed up with the X-men before)
Profesor X/Juggernaut combination
Scarlet Witch
Synch (why not?)
damn, i just realized i didn't finish my team, well here is the full team
queen of asgard storm
phoenix storm
The end magneto
extreme full potential rogue
brood mimic
full potential iceman
blink with in-betweener
herald dazzler
lifeguard
quantum powers moonstar
THE END: moonstar
binary-she has worked with the x-men
scarlet witch
super skrull rogue
shaman x-man
I might be later on im a bit boozed up at the moment.
Oh and Rachel wasnt significantly below a cosmic cube Beyonder as you incorrectly stated in your intro, she was significantly below a Pre retcon Beyonder
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It doesn't work that way. There IS no pre-retcon Beyonder. There's just Beyonder. Everything that happened in SW/SWII still happened, but got explained away and placed in its new perspective, which means that Rachel got retrograded to being punked by an incomplete Cosmic Cube.
By your logic Galactus, the Celestials and Death are below Cosmic cube level as well.
Retcons dont work like that. At the time he was written as arguably the most powerful being in Marvel. Rachel lost to that incarnation. Beyonders feats were explained away as illusion and/or the powers playing along. Take your pick.
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No need to take my pick. It was retconned into Beyonder being a Cosmic Cube who beat up on M-bodies, illusions and a weak Galactus. By decree of the retcon, he was NEVER as powerful as he seemed. That puts Rachel significantly below a cosmic cube in power. No shame in that, though.
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