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Now tell me where do you get your information from?


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Very well, sorry for coming across how I did... Well I'm not saying all of its canon or not, because that is debatable. The mountain bursting attacks and such were mainly from the alpha movie, where alot of the characters are at high powers... and is said closest to their potrayal. Again game balance can be taken in several ways, and is up for you to decide if its useable or not, but it will be used. I don't have snapshots and whatnots however, sorry.


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Very well, sorry for coming across how I did... Well I'm not saying all of its canon or not, because that is debatable. The mountain bursting attacks and such were mainly from the alpha movie, where alot of the characters are at high powers... and is said closest to their potrayal. Again game balance can be taken in several ways, and is up for you to decide if its useable or not, but it will be used. I don't have snapshots and whatnots however, sorry.


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Alot of the sources come from capcom it's self that faq is very reliable but I guess they make mistakes here and there.


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the Sfer are usually toned down in the game as for why I don't know...


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Alot of the sources come from capcom it's self that faq is very reliable but I guess they make mistakes here and there.
Well its so inconsistant... like I said, so many media to follow.


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Well its so inconsistant... like I said, so many media to follow.



Here are all the games and the year they take place

Street fighter 1 ( 1987)

Street fighter zero 2 (!988, Zero 1 got retconned by zero 2)

Street fighter zero 3 ( 1990 )

Street fighter 2 ( 1993)

Street fighter 3 double impact ( 1997 ? )

Street fighter 3 third strike ( 1999)

All these games are part of the official canon anything else doesn't count

Oh yeah final fight and Saturday night slam masters is canon.

All anime and manga are not canon all those event's aren't official
but there abilities could be since capcom said the abilities in alpha the movie are official.

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Ryu splitting a mountain...

Gouki jumping into space.

Bison freezing time.

Ey guess what...Cloud Strife can one shot a city with an Ultima spell.


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Sephiroth > Akuma

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Well no duh. Now I'll wait for V2D to come and tell me Super Nova is an illusion when his arguments support the belief that many other limits are illusions as well (since the reasons would apply to other limit breaks, such as Auron's tornado for instance).


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Originally posted by shin_gear
Well no duh. Now I'll wait for V2D to come and tell me Super Nova is an illusion when his arguments support the belief that many other limits are illusions as well (since the reasons would apply to other limit breaks, such as Auron's tornado for instance).
It's a giant fireball. big grin


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Supernova is really a giant fireball, Bahamut is really just a flamethrower disguised as a dragon, Shiva is actually just a huge overpowered refrigerator

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Supernova is really a giant fireball, Bahamut is really just a flamethrower disguised as a dragon, Shiva is actually just a huge overpowered refrigerator
Makes more sense then being able to continuously bust the same exact planets with a meteor that causes the sun to expand and attack the party(who wouldn't survive that btw). If he could always do that, then the entire plot of the game would be moot, he'd already be a god.


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The same reasons I was talking about.

1. The planets keep busting in gameplay. Auron keeps tossing his bottle each time he does the tornado overdrive in gameplay, when in actuality he carries one bottle with him. Tornado is an illusion now. Lulu always happens to have a spare blitzball for Tidus to kick while doing Blitz Ace in gameplay. Blitz Ace is also an illusion.

2. The party couldn't survive it, no doubt. Many moves cannot be survived by a cast either, ones that are unavoidable as well, such as the attack in VIII where a boss grabs three planets and smash them on the cast. It's an ability. It did not happen for the sake of happy endings. This is not hard to understand.

3. Seifer Sephiroth was seraphic (celestial, relating to a seraph etc. the name Sephiroth was based on the Sephirot, or Sephirah which are the ten commandments of the Hebrew god created through which he can manifest not only the physical but the metaphysical universe.) Gods are defeatable, big deal. We don't know how the cast overcame Seifer Sephiroth to use his loss against him. We do know that if his most powerful move is an illusion, then all other moves that can be considered illusions for the same reasons are also, which of course is dumb.


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Originally posted by shin_gear
The same reasons I was talking about.

1. The planets keep busting in gameplay. Auron keeps tossing his bottle each time he does the tornado overdrive in gameplay, when in actuality he carries one bottle with him. Tornado is an illusion now. Lulu always happens to have a spare blitzball for Tidus to kick while doing Blitz Ace in gameplay. Blitz Ace is also an illusion.

2. The party couldn't survive it, no doubt. Many moves cannot be survived by a cast either, ones that are unavoidable as well, such as the attack in VIII where a boss grabs three planets and smash them on the cast. It's an ability. It did not happen for the sake of happy endings. This is not hard to understand.

3. Seifer Sephiroth was seraphic (celestial, relating to a seraph etc. the name Sephiroth was based on the Sephirot, or Sephirah which are the ten commandments of the Hebrew god created through which he can manifest not only the physical but the metaphysical universe.) Gods are defeatable, big deal. We don't know how the cast overcame Seifer Sephiroth to use his loss against him. We do know that if his most powerful move is an illusion, then all other moves that can be considered illusions for the same reasons are also, which of course is dumb.
It's not an illusion, its a giant fireball. Seph in AC could do nothing like busting planets and making a sun supernova, yet he is somehow more powerful. Seph himself could not survive a supernova either.


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AC Sephiroth is not confirmed to be more powerful than Seifer Sephiroth. You could tell this by reading the KH versus AC Sephiroth thread. The one making the claim used the fact that an interview based on Advent Children with it saying at one point that there was nothing above Sephiroth (not even mentioning in what way) as proof that AC Sephiroth > Seifer Sephiroth which is false. It did not make that statement directly and is obviously speculation. About Sephiroth not surviving a Super Nova, I mean I guess there's no point in showing Sephiroth engulfing himself in his own attack. It's his own spell. Why would he not make himself invulerable to it? erm


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Who knows wut AC Sephiroth is capable of,

anyway yes the same exact planets re-appear, in other summons the same grounds re-appear even after they get destroyed as well, no they cannot survive that heat, neither can those shinra soliders survive multiple slahes from braver, and shots from barretts guns, but they all can in GAMEPLAY

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Originally posted by shin_gear
Ryu splitting a mountain...

Gouki jumping into space.

Bison freezing time.

Ey guess what...Cloud Strife can one shot a city with an Ultima spell.


Sephiroth's spit blowing up half a planet.


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Originally posted by shin_gear
AC Sephiroth is not confirmed to be more powerful than Seifer Sephiroth. You could tell this by reading the KH versus AC Sephiroth thread. The one making the claim used the fact that an interview based on Advent Children with it saying at one point that there was nothing above Sephiroth (not even mentioning in what way) as proof that AC Sephiroth > Seifer Sephiroth which is false. It did not make that statement directly and is obviously speculation. About Sephiroth not surviving a Super Nova, I mean I guess there's no point in showing Sephiroth engulfing himself in his own attack. It's his own spell. Why would he not make himself invulerable to it? erm
No, phail. It was stated he reached a higher level of existence and strength. As for making himself invulnerable to it, Vincent if he put his gun to his chin and pulled the trigger would still die, same with anything else, what makes you think he can do it with that one attack.


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