First of all this sounds ALMOST like a Spite thread, not totally, but a thread you made simply because you want someone to Beat Thanos....but hey i could be wrong, so I'll take that back.
Secondly, instead of trying to minimize Thanos, i think it would be helpful if you gave us some info on Maestro. WEll atleast it would help me, looking him up online is not enough, as online info only gives u general info, while you yourself could supply me with specific info as to why you think Maestro would stand a chance, therefore possibly convince me of it.
Also your statement about Thanos always needing IG, he only used it twice, so lay off. Thanos is an extemely intelligent, resourceful, powerful and multi-dimensional character, and he deserves a LIL more respect than what you have written about him in my opinion.
But thats besides the point, what more can Maestro do besides gain Hulk liek strength? Because that alone is not enough against Thanos, Thanos made an idiot out of Champion w power gem who was stronger than Hulk would EVER be.
Champion was badly written in that comic. A well-written Champion knows over a hundred martial arts and would easily pwn Thanos. However, sometimes the idiotic writers choose to ignore his martial arts and make Thanos defeat him.
He still has the ability to increase his strength with rage.
He also has taken on Warrior Madness Thor.
I am not saying that Thanos would lost to Maestro.
I am going by there "Abilities" mostly.
Maestro is no punk, and neither is thanos.
I personally think the Maestro would be able to handle his own with Thanos in a physical fight.
I have read about the Champion before.
He seems to be more of "fighter" with various martial arts he knowns around the universe.
But I have never read anyone where the champion has performed a great feat of strength like the Hulk has.
I could be wrong about that.
My whole point here, is that the Maestro has the "potential" in get stronger and stronger and stronger because he increases in strength as he rage goes up.
BUT, that's not the reason why I think he would handle his own with Thanos. He is very very smart. He has Banner's intellegence.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know thanos has been around for thousands of years.
But take Doctor Doom for example. He is still human, and probably one of the most smartest villians is the whole marvel universe.
So just because Thanos is older, and has been more places, doesn't mean that Maestro is not on his level in terms of smartest.
In fact, the writers haven't made that many Maestro stories.
So his character was never really given a chance to do the things Thanos have accomplished.
Thanos is a great warrior, but to honestly put him on some untouchable plaque is crazy IMO.
I just think with Maestro healing abilites, intellegence, and strength increasing factor. He will be able to give Thanos a run for his money.
I personally think that Thanos would try to out smart him instead of getting in a hand to hand battle with someone who can go toe to toe with him physically.
Like I said before. If the maestro can go toe to toe with
"Warrior Madness" Thor, who is like 10 times stronger than the current Thor. Here is a link to that.
leaderslair.com/noexcuses/hulk2-440.html
I personally just think that Maestro is the "localized" version of Thanos IMO.
It would be cool if they left him roam the whole universe.
Last edited by mrichardson45 on May 16th, 2006 at 04:19 AM
This thread is absurd. Thanos is on an entirely different level of power. Maestro hit Thor as hard as he could and still couldn't hurt him so what the hell is he going to do to Thanos who is even tougher than Thor?
Also, Hulk never lifted an entire mountain range nor did he destroy an asteroid under his own power.
But even if Champion was badly written, let's just say he had his martial arts knowledge in Thanos Quest, how do we know that Thanos didn't have more martial art knowledge?
We know for a fact that Thanos is a more skilled fighter than Darkseid, Silver Surfer and Superman.
PLUS Champion had the Power Gem, he was the ultamate in strength, in his rage he destroyed the planet the fought on and Thanos still survived.
Champion w Power Gem has 2 advantaged above Maestro Hulk:
1) Champion is probably a more skilled martial artists, it has nothing to do with scientific intelligence, it has to do with experience and exposure to other galactic cultures.
2) Champion was armed with Power Gem, an INFINITE source of might, therefore no other animalistic behemoth, even Hulk, would have been able to match his PURE strength.
Thanos beat Champion, so why wouldn't he beat this one the same?
Again, this is mostly my speculation and reference to another battle, feel free to correct any of my points without me feeling bad or ne thing lol
"Please don't tell me about Thanos accomplishments.
His accomplishments are whatever the writers want them to be,
so I am ignoring his accomplishments.
Besides, he usually cheats and gets the IG to really do some damage."
You already lose the topic then. What is really the point of asking opinions concerning a character you dont accept any accomplisment he had?
I have the strong feeling Maestro Hulk is being underrated... Don't ask me why... he's extremely strong, tough as hell, and has one of the best healing factors ever.
Thanos will NOT walk over this guy, no matter what his accomplishments are. I'm not saying Maestro will win, I am saying they will beat the crap out of each other. They are both ruthless and stubborn.
Thanos will only win because he is even smarter than Maestro Hulk, and has his power blasts.
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Thanos is a lot smarter than Maestro, Banner's intelligence is just no where near Thanos, they are not compareable in the slightest on that front. Class 200 strength doesn't mean much either, we've never really seen the limits to Thanos' strength but its not like he is low-end Class 100 like Collosus or Thing, and hes strong enough to slap guys like regular Hulk, Drax and Champion around like they're nothing.
And then theres Maestro's healing factor, but Thanos is durable enough to hang with Odin in Asgard, hes no slouch in the durability department. So Maestro's biggest assests don't add up to much against Thanos, then on top of that Thanos has energy blasts, telepathic powers, matter manipulation, and a host of other powers that make this one sided.
Banner's scientific intelligence will NOT help him in a FIST FIGHT.
Scientific intelligence is NOT martial art intelligence.
Thanos has learned different martial arts from different parts of the Universe, and has even trained GAMORA, the so called "deadliest woman in the universe".
Maestro's scientific intelligence means nothing in a BRAWL.....and it might not even be on PAR with Thanos' own sci intel.
healing....i wanna see maestro take a nuke which blows up multiple solar systems, and then be sucked into a black hole, and left in the vacuum of space....and still be able to walk and talk....
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Maestro is not class 200, that was made up. It's been said that Maestro is twice as strong as Professor Hulk, who is class 100. But for all we know, Professor can lift/press 500 tons or more(it's still class 100). Then that would make Maestro capable of lifting 1000 tons. We'll probably never know.
People love to retcon things themselves, don't they? If that's the case, you need to make your own comics because if you even try to retcon something, then the same would work for the opposing view.
However, I would like to see this match as I am a Hulk and Thanos fan. But of course it would end in.."THANOS REIGNS!"
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It's been stated that the Maestro is "TWICE" as strong as the professor hulk. Which means he starts off as around 200 tons.
He also has the rage factor that his strength increases as his rage increases.
Also, let's take a long at the "REGULAR" hulk accomplishments.
If you look at this forum, is shows you that the regular hulk as survived 4 NUKES at once. Survived Gamma bombs and a ton of other stuff without being scratched!!!!!!!! He also was able to take on the Surfer and Namor at the same time. This is the "SAVAGE" mainstream hulk man.
Now Maestro can do the same things as this hulk, but he has Banner's smarts.
Here is a link for Maestro.
hulknews.com/hulkdatabase/maestro.php
Here is a quote from the site'
At the end, they ended this character being put under a bunch of debris.
BUT, they never declared him dead, because he really can't die either.
So here is my argument with the whole thing.
You takes the Non Maestro Hulk's accomplishments above.
The Maestro, could accomplish the same things if the writers choose to make him a mainstream character, and it would be BELIEVEABLE by the fans.
So to say that Thanos would mop him like nothing is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!
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