this is ridiculos. Kun has an f'ing amulat that focuses his power. He has reached power in the force the two never dreamed about. He made his own lightsaber form and lightsaber. he WTFpwned one of the strongest jedi in the order after toying with him. yes you can say that he wasn't trying his hardest and didnt want to kill Kun, But obi wan didnt want to kill anakin yet he thought he did. And Fox, you are banned. stay banned.
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His amulet really isn't that impressive. It is clear that he set out to kill Aleema, he used the amulet on her with the intention of killing her and it was a simple attack that looks easy to block and that didn't even kill Aleema with full impact.
He tyoed with a guy who didn't even want to hurt Kun *Clap clap*
He never used that amulet blast on someone who could really defend themself. Clap Clap
He was not angrey. the dark side flows from anger. that is way he gave such a huge blast in DLOTS. He was pissed at nadd, at dieing, at his life, at turning to the dark side, everything. When he saw aleema was slightly angry but nothing special and he still knocked her unconcious in a tiny blast. And stay banned!
Obi wan didnt want to kill anakin. master and apprentice. guess who the master is? Vodo.
the former apprentice? Kun. same thing. *Clap clap*
He killed a gient sithspawn, creatures feared by the jedi, created by naga sadow. he blew right through its head and the wall on the other side of it. he killed massasi very easily with it. sure they werent jedi but who care. if you kill a sithspawn...
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Didn't I refute that idea 10 threads ago? The amulet feeds off of the dark rage within Kun's heart. The dark rage is always there and Kun's exact feelings at the time have no reflection on the dark rage inside his heart.
To think that was the same attack, let alone the fact that he can't produce the same effect is pretty ridiculous. Here's the jist of what I wrote about it:
First off, before Kun even mentions anything about "not being able to control it", he says "Yes, Nadd...I...I believe I begin to understand", and the omniscient narrator comes in to say "What Exar Kun understands is that the dark rage that fills his own heart can be focused in this amulet, unleashing tremendous energies!" - and on the same page we see him use the blasts which seem to have the same magnitude as the others. Then, on the next page, he says he can't control it as the energy increases - though there is no mention of this on the previous page of Kun not controlling it when we see the blasts first disintegrate temple walls.
The blast had enough power to throw her across the room, and knock her unconcious - but not enough to even leave a burn? I highly doubt that's the same attack. Not ruling out it isn't, but I wouldn't count it as the same either. Even though they had two different artists, the attacks look different anyways - red squiggly lines and pink DBZ blasts. Hell, even Aleema produced an illusion that looked similiar to Kun's blast, so really I think the artist knew what he was drawing.
As well, have you taken into account that he wasn't even attuned to the Darkside during that point? Hadn't learned jack of the Darkside, and was almost clueless?
The fact he could use blasts to that magnitude, direct them, and not be consumed by them when he didn't know jack about the Darkside is impressive. Since that time he's gained immense knowledge - "more knowledge and wealth than he can ever hope to use", vast insights into the Darkside, and obviously tremendous power - to think he can't produce the same effect and control it would call for an actual explanation rather than "omg Aleema blastz = fin4l product" - because that's all the damn evidence you guys who support the theory have.
I suppose though that it's the same attack (not really) - I mean Ulic, who knew nothing of Nadd's direct teaching and barely anything of the amulet he possessed, knew how to or did create blasts like Kun did on Yavin, didn't he? No, no he didn't. And seeing as how he used a blast which had similiar effect to Kun's blast on Aleema, on Cay and Nomi, it doesn't seem to be the same attack at all.
Oh yeah:
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Forget the amulet. He has no time to prepare it. Yoda would be on him in a matter of seconds and sidious would be blasting his lightning. Kun will have to depend on a saber fight. I dont see him seperating the two. Let alone trying to seperate yoda.
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why? because Anakin was a huge threat? So was Kun! wodo came ready to fight and he did. he lost after trying.
@ Ackbar the amulat takes about as much time as a force push. he can use it.
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Firstly Vodo wasn't trying as hard as Kun. he knew he had to stop him but he set out to turn him or disarm him, not to kill him. Secondly, Exar Kun did not tool Vodo. It was very close and Kun was never able to break through Vodo's defences by outdueling him. Thirdly, the factor that affected the outcome of the fight was not who was more powerful or skilled, but the fact that Vodo's stick had a weakness to Kun's saber. And finally, there is no reason to think that Vodo was so impressive and he was hardly a saber god like Yoda or Mace. Remember that George Lucas has said that the pt era was the golden age of saber dueling.
Now please remind me how his slaying of Vodo puts him above Sidious or Yoda in terms of saber abilities.
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Well Mokoto the fact remains that he set out to kill Aleema and his amulet blast that was not only simple but very ineffective was the final result. That is the only time we have seen it used against a force user, so there is no reason to assume it would be any more affective. That is just desperate fanboyism.
Really? Wasn't trying as hard as Kun? Go on, Foxy. Back up this ridiculous claim.
Either way, he would be trying his hardest to put an end to him, even in disarming - you will not be able to disarm or take someone down by playing your weakest in a one-on-one. That much should already be known.
To think a now master of the lightsaber Kun, with vast insights into the Darkside, Nadd's teachings, Sadow's scrolls, Sith magic and alchemy, and Sadow's amulet couldn't tool Vodo is pretty ridiculous seeing as how well he faired against Vodo as a padawan with two sabers.
He was taunting him and trying to convert Vodo to the Darkside, did you miss the "join me"? Then he casually steps back, ignites the other end of his lightsaber, and then without much effort, cleaves Vodo in two with one side of his blade, in another words, toying with him.
"More powerful than Exar Kun's lightsaber" z0mg weakness.
Sure was, I mean Coleman Trebor rocks.
No, I've put together a valid arguement. The only thing you can say is the Aleema blast is the final product, in which I've given a multitude of reasons why it isn't. The fact that you don't bother to refute my arguement, and instead try to downplay it is what the definition of a "desperate fanboy" is. So, until you actually refute it - don't call anyone a "fan", because you are so linear in thinking.
On top of that, you were banned for a reason, so leave.
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Sama, Vodo was trying to stop Kun, but he wasn't fighting as best as he would have if he were trying to kill him....by his own admission he was there to try to turn Kun back, he says as much in the JA trilogy.
And leave Coleman out of this! It's not like Ood Bnar is better...poor Coleman, knew he was dead anyways...man was a mediator! And a dinosaur!
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