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Batman vs. Iceman
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Whittdawg92
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yep, pretty much.


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Originally posted by Draco69
Actually there IS a viable way he can win.

A mutant gene nullifer. Something that many a villain have used against mutants.

I'm not sure it would work against Iceman though...


I don't think it would be effective on a mutant that doesn't have genes to manipulate....


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Whittdawg92
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he's undefeatable by any means, cuz he's unstoppable, i wouldn't bother arguing.


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actually it should work seeing as he does get his powers from genes and he's organic as ice anyways.


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actually it should work seeing as he does get his powers from genes and he's organic as ice anyways.


He is a consciousness embodied in ice. I doubt a gene nullifier is going to stop him.


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He is a consciousness embodied in ice. I doubt a gene nullifier is going to stop him.


He is still a mutant though. No matter how body-less he is, he's still a mutant. If he came in contact with such a device, he'd revert back to human form.


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he's still organic ice though. only way to know is if the gene nullifier work on Collosus as he has no genes but is organic.


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He is still a mutant though. No matter how body-less he is, he's still a mutant. If he came in contact with such a device, he'd revert back to human form.


Are you sure about that? He isn't omega for nothing, after all.

That's like saying a gene nullifier would work on a consciousness...


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What did Apoc use against Iceman in that horrible Milligan arc. I refused to read such garbage....

sick


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Are you sure about that? He isn't omega for nothing, after all.

That's like saying a gene nullifier would work on a consciousness...


Well, I'm assuming he hasn't left his body via the ambient moisture in the air. You follow me?

He's still a mutant. His consciousness is a mutant. When it comes in "contact" with the nullifying agent, it should revert Iceman back to human form.

Same thing to Colossus. Or...uh...others. Hell, if she was caught off-guard and it was a powerful enough nullifier, it could quite possibly work on Phoenix, too.

But I digress. A mutant nullifier would do the trick.

However, Iceman still wins 10/10.


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Well, I'm assuming he hasn't left his body via the ambient moisture in the air. You follow me?

He's still a mutant. His consciousness is a mutant. When it comes in "contact" with the nullifying agent, it should revert Iceman back to human form.

Same thing to Colossus. Or...uh...others. Hell, if she was caught off-guard and it was a powerful enough nullifier, it could quite possibly work on Phoenix, too.

But I digress. A mutant nullifier would do the trick.

However, Iceman still wins 10/10.


I know what you're saying.

I'm not sure Iceman even has genes to manipulate, though. Isn't he purely a consciousness?


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I know what you're saying.

I'm not sure Iceman even has genes to manipulate, though. Isn't he purely a consciousness?


*nods* He is ENTIRELY indistinguishable from normal water/ice. There are no mutant genes to affect, nor to detect. Hence, a sentinal could not find Iceman while he was in his ambient moisture form, and a gene manipulator would have no DNA to change.


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*nods* He is ENTIRELY indistinguishable from normal water/ice. There are no mutant genes to affect, nor to detect. Hence, a sentinal could not find Iceman while he was in his ambient moisture form, and a gene manipulator would have no DNA to change.


Alright, cool. I'm not exactly an expert on Iceman's physiology, but I thought that's how it was. stick out tongue


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PLAN #1

*1* Batman creates "Force Field A", which is a SELF-SUSTAINABLE Force Field, about 50 meter radius, pervading into the ground as well.

*2* Batman programs "Force Field A" to boomtube itself into an area of Batman's choice. The boomtube sequence has a timer on it.

*3* Batman creates "Force Field B," which is a force field just small enough to fit himself.

*4* Batman brings the teleportation button on his belt.

*5* Batman programs Force Field A and Force Field B to work at the same time, via a button on his gauntlet, a physical movement, or an acoustic sound.


OK: Now the fight starts.

1 - Batman presses a button on his suit or voice activates the button. This button activates both Force Field A and Force Field B at the same time. Force Field A is so large (50 diameter radius) that it includes BOTH Batman and Iceman. Then, Force Field B, the smaller force field, coats Batman; this is so that Iceman cannot immediately steal his moisture.

2 - This also serves as a fantastic distraction. You know all those X-Men comics where the ground trembles and they're not quite sure what's about to happen, but they know its something big? Ice Man will be momentarily distracted because he's trying to figure out what the hell Batman is planning and how to counteract it.

3 - ONE SECOND LATER, Batman teleports the contents of Force Field B, via himself, the hell out.

4 - Now Iceman is still trapped in the huge 50 diameter Force Field A, and will probably try to turn into water vapor so he can seap through the force field. However, before he even reaches the edge of Force Field A, it BOOMTUBES ALL ITS CONTENTS INTO THE SUN. Thus, Bobby, who is trapped in Force Field A, will be teleported directly inside the sun: where there is no moisture. Thus, Iceman dies and Batman wins.


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PLAN #2

Batman uses the Motherbox to traverse across the Multiverse, into Marvel's Universe, and slaughter the entire Drake lineage.


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#2 would work...not so sure about number one...Iceman's control of his temperature may be able to offset the temperature extremes he'd be facing in the sun. Also iceman could just move his consciousness to a different body of water when his current form is taken to the sun.

Iceman could become the water in Bruce's body...he doesn't have to have contact of any kind...so the force-field won't help Bruce here.

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PLAN #3

In the 1966 Batman movie, there was a superdehydrator that could take away moisture from any living being and expel it away. Now assume Batman modifies this superdehydrator so that whatever moisture it absorbs will be immediately boomtubed halfway across the galaxy. Thus, Iceman would not be able to use the moisture because it is teleported away from him.

*1* Batman creates the superdehydrator, which is capable of boomtubing stuff. This superdehydrator will steal moisture and teleport it halfway across the Galaxy.

*2* The superdehydrator is also designed to be extremely hot, so hot that it would melt any ice near it. Batman wears a special suit to protect himself from the immense heat.


Fight starts.


1 - Batman activates a gigantic Force Field around himself and Iceman. This activation also triggers the superdehydrator simultaneously.

2 - This dehydrator steals Iceman's moisture and teleports it halfway across the galaxy. Now, you're thinking, "Hey! Won't Batman lose moisture too?" Well, this superdehydrator is DIRECTIONAL, and Batman will point it in the direction of Iceman.

DIRECTIONAL MAP:

Moisture
V
SUPERDEHYDRATOR <Moisture Iceman Is Here
^
Moisture

The arrows represent Batman's superdehydrator's direction. It doesn't affect Batman because the superdehydrator is DIRECTIONAL. All of the moisture not in Batman's direction will go into the superdehydrator and pop out halfway across the galaxy.


3 - Now you're thinking, can't Bobby just freeze the moisture being extracted away from him- thus freezing the superdehydrator? NO, because the superdehydrator was designed to expel INTENSE heat energy, thus melting any ice that comes out of Iceman's hands. Batman is not affected because he has a force field around him and he is wearing a special suit.

4 - Now you're thinking, can't Bobby just steal Batman's moisture? Well you make an interesting point, which is why BATMAN WILL HAVE A FORCE FIELD AROUND HIM. Thus, Bobby cannot directly affect Batman. Also, he can try to steal the moisture beyond the point of the superdehydrator where Batman is standing, but once that moisture tries to get past the superdehydrator, it will be sucked halfway across the galaxy.


As far as I know, Iceman cannot freeze things remotely, he has to touch it or indirectly touch it. For example, to freeze a duck across the lake, he has to touch the water skimming the lake. To freeze someone, he has to shoot a beam of ice. However, he will not be able to make that connection because all of his ice will be melted by the superdehydrator.

5 - Iceman doesn't have enough moisture and reverts back to Bobby. Batman kills him with a projectile.


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#2 would work...not so sure about number one...Iceman's control of his temperature may be able to offset the temperature extremes he'd be facing in the sun. Also iceman could just move his consciousness to a different body of water when his current form is taken to the sun.

Iceman could become the water in Bruce's body...he doesn't have to have contact of any kind...so the force-field won't help Bruce here.


WHAT!!!!? ICEMAN CAN MOVE HIS CONCIOUSNESS WITHOUT ANY PHYSICAL CONTACT!? WHY IS HE SO FREAKIN CHEAP! GODDAMNIT T.T


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I hate to be the one to tell you, but none of those plans would work. Iceman could simply do any number of things to Batman before Batman could even press a button on his belt. erm


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Originally posted by Metalmanx
I hate to be the one to tell you, but none of those plans would work. Iceman could simply do any number of things to Batman before Batman could even press a button on his belt. erm


My spirit is broken lol


However, if Batman uses the motherbox, then he would act much faster than Iceman. The motherbox helped Mr.Terrific calculate, think, and act much faster than he normally could.


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