No, you see, the anger towards pirates is really just suppressed sexual desire. It's really all right there. Seriously. You just have to look really hard.
Of course, Jack/Will is more cannon and is a bit easier to defend...
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i don't think they were implying anything like that
no jack/norrington, no jack/will
it's a disney movie.
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Disney's not openly gay about anything. Even if Norrington floated that way, there is NOOOOOO evidence saying Jack does. He even gets freaked out when he thinks Liz is a boy. "My first and only love is the sea," as he gestures to Gibbs to get rid of "him."
That's just fear of being confronted with his true sexual desires getting to Jack. The compass is actually pointing at Norrington, but Jack has convinced himself that it's pointing at Elizabeth.
Every scene between Jack and Norrington is filled with sexual energy. I mean, Jack is hung up (hehe) on eunich jokes...ooooh, maybe he's in love with Will!
I mean, he trades Will for his soul. It could just be his attempt to remove temptation from his life, because the possibility of being in love with another man is just too frightening to contemplate.
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Is this some kind of parody of what we say about Jack and Liz sometimes?
If there is sexual tension between Jack and Norrington, then there is sexual tension between Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty, Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker, Maximus and Commodus, Harry and Voldemort, Braveheart and Longshanks, Batman and the Joker, and RickyBobby and the French guy!
There is tension, but can you really say it's sexual? Norrington's a little too bitter and Jack enjoys Liz's kisses a little too much to be gay.
Jack is only enjoying Elizabeth's kiss because he's imaginging her wearing a commodore's uniform.
Nah, it's not a parody, but I could do one if you want. I'm just a slash fan, and if everyone in the pirate world was gay, I'd totally go for Norrington/Will/Jack, with a dash of ~EVIL~ Beckett on the side for fun.
Ya, he does want Jack more.... Norrington is the type to always put his job first before his girl... which is part of the reason he lost Elizabeth to begin with.
Norrington puts his job above everything, including himself. Poor guy. That's why he needs Jack to help loosen him up and free him from the constraints of society.
mmm... i think norrington did loosen up. i have this idea that he always wanted to try out a pirates life. you only persecute people or ideas that scare you because you find yourself weak in that area, and the venom with which he condemns pirates in film 1 makes me think he sort of secretly longs to be one. Seeing Will Turner turn pirate, having dealings with Jack Sparrow, and then seeing who Elizabeth chooses and why probably convinces him further to try out a pirates life.
but of course, it wasn't as glamorous as imagined, and he does have an honest streak and was born and bred a gentleman... so it makes sense he would want to go back to that life, not realizing the implications of working for the EITC etc. I think when he realizes it isn't the royal navy and how corrupt Beckett is, he will jump back into the other boat.
I reckon Elizabeth should kiss him in AWE, just to even out the love pyramid.
I don't think James wants a posh life back. I think James is horrified by his actions from CotBP to DMC. The writers mention in WordPlayer somewhere that James takes his job seriously, and the responsiblity that comes with it. He knows he failed his men, and that weighs heavily on him.
He wants redemption, not a comfy bed. He is desperate to find his way back to who he was before Jack Sparrow, Elizabeth Swann and Will Turner shook up his world and turned it upside down.
Right now he's struggling with who he is, because no matter what he thinks, he'll never be able to go back to seeing the world in black and white, but he despises how loosely he's been living. He lost everything, and now that he's given a chance to pull himself out of the muck and try to make things right by his men, he's going to do it.
I love the tragic hero. I'll be so pissed if he dies.
eh, i dont think he's the tragic hero. pretty much everyone in the film is following a similar path. Him and Will are actually very similar in my mind.
You've got the gods:
Barbossa
Jack
Tia
Davy Jones
The Principal mortals:
Elizabeth
Will
The Mortals with plot value:
Norrington
Bootstrap
Gibbs (?)
The Lesser Mortals:
Gibbs (?)
Gov. Swann
Pintel and Ragetti
The gag characters:
The dog
the strumpets
the disposable sailors and crew
the fish dudes
And the Napoleon characters:
Beckett
So, Jack, Will, and Norrington all are very similar, just different levels of power and importance. IMO.
I reckon Sao will be up with the gods, as well as Teague. I'm also assuming characters will be adopting new roles in AWE. Elizabeth has shown herself capable of playing with the gods, for one. She tricked Jack, bargained with Beckett, defied Barbossa, and will hopefully have some good interaction with Tia or Jones in 3, after also wrapping Sao around her finger.
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What's the deal with the gods/mortals thing? Film making class or something?
And I believe Norrington would be more of a Principal Mortal, rather than a mortal with plot value; every action he's taken in the first two films, and likely from the third, is absolutely vital and pivotal to the plot. He swings the story one way or another (interesting how both movies end with a pivotal action of his that continues the story)...so he at least should get to be in the Prinipal Mortal list.
im going off what the writers said on the first and second commentaries and on wordplayer.
they specifically listed Jack and Barbossa as "godlike characters" in the commentary. They also said you could tell how godlike a character was by their teeth.
Norrington just doesn't have the amount of screentime as Will and Elizabeth. He is important to the story, but he isn't on the movie poster. you know I love Norrington with a passion and find his character one of the most fascinating in the series, but i was classifying based on what the writers said, that kind of thing. because t and t are good writers, the actions of EVERY character (except the gag characters) are pretty much essential to the plot.
my point in doing that was to show the similarities between certain characters on different levels and to speculate how characters may change in the course of AWE.
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Okay, am I dreaming this up, or is there a scene in Beckett's office when he's telling someone he found this special sword and he puts it in a case? Since Norrington has his sword with him, I wonder if the two tie in in some way?
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I'm just a slash fan, and if everyone in the pirate world was gay, I'd totally go for Norrington/Will/Jack, with a dash of ~EVIL~ Beckett on the side for fun. 
