Writers simply chose to ignore the Hulk's power set. This is a forum battle. Your argument ignores the Hulk's powers, and places it in the PIS category. Thor should have only been able to match the Hulk's strength increase to a certain amount of time (you should know this). We recently saw how the Hulk actually does increase in power. Do you want to ignore that as well?
The real question should not be whether I am trying to not make sense, the question is why are you attempting to ignore a characters power profile?
If Kurse was unable to be hurt, how was he rendered unconscious? Energizer, a member of Power Pack, absorbed energy from both Thor's and Beta Ray Bill's enchanted hammers and then fired a tremendously powerful ball of energy at Kurse, which rendered him unconscious <--- Does this in any way resemble not being able to be hurt?
Comics are filled with PIS and CIS, but in a forum match does this mean that we should ignore the characters power set because the writers decided to ignore them for the purpose of plot? No. Trust me I see your point, but consider the Hulk's power set, and the fact that nothing was capable of putting him down in his mindless state. Has the Hulk ever shifted the odds in his favor when other characters had him clearly beat? You would be right about Kurse beating the hell out of the Hulk, and that beating going unanswered, if he were the Rhino, or some other character who does not increase in power, but it's not.
You can only say that Kurse wins this by a margin of 50%, but encroaching on any more than this is just you ignoring the Hulk's powers, and ability to heal, and grow stronger as the battle rages. Mindless Hulk did not have the restraint that the Hulk had when Banner was on board, he would not hold back.
No matter how strong Kurse is, the Hulk can and would become stronger. Marvel as you seem so hinged on quoting says that the Hulk is the strongest one there is. They never said that Kurse was the strongest one there is. Double standards can be a slippery slope at times.
The Hulk's punches are energy. Kinetic energy, but energy all the same. His ability to punch through dimensional barriers, is as quantifiable as the energy burst that put Valgoth Algrim down. So yes I am comparing a punch to it.
Why the heck not? Is there a limit to how hard the Hulk can punch? Has there ever been a limit to how hard he can punch? Has he ever reached a point that he can no longer continue ramping up in terms of strength? The same Beyonder that gave Algrim his extra power said that the Hulk was an infinite power. Algrim wasn't given infinite power, just a very strong power base. To be honest, if Kurse has the ability to put the Midless Hulk down right away would be his only means of winning, but the longer a battle between these two lasted, the more obvious that it would be that the Hulk would be the dominant combatant. Did you read HOTM? If so why would you question whether or not the Hulk lacked the power to affect Algrim?
You are aware that two hammers clashing together was powerful enough to effect every plane of reality, right? Hell, Mjolnir + Thunderstrike + Future! Mjolnir + Stormbreaker have the collective power to effect the entire multiverse.
So, no, I don't think Mindless Hulk has ever displayed anything close to that level of power.
Can he hurt Kurse? Sure, he probably would eventually. But it's more likely that Kurse beats the crap out of him considering how they both fare against Thor, a common foe.
I'll go half way with you, because I can accept that certain characters can beat others. If Kurse takes him out within the first 5 minutes, then he wins, but anything beyond that makes him winning highly unlikely. It was the Mindless hulk persona that flattened Onslaught, and Onslaught was written to be a Juggernaut buster. You can't ignore one thing, and give credit to another. The Hulk broke into a magical dimensional barrier, that was said to be inpenetrable. Is Kurse tougher than the stuff that binds dimensions? I'm trying to look at the entire picture, and the Hulk is simply one of those characters like Superman, He-Man, Lobo, and Thor in that when the plot demands, they rise to the occasion. Kurse isn't, he's just a very strong character, with a cap on his strength, and durability.
Kurse would IMO. I just see him at a league above guy's like Hulk, Thor, Bill. Not saying he cant be beat , but it would take more than just 1 of those guy's mentioned.
not in a physical scrimmage. Kurse is as brick like as they come, and he would be entering the Hulk's domain. You have to ask yourself if you believe that the Hulk could overcome Kurse's level of strength. Thor in Warrior's Madness can surpass it, as he would achieve x10 base, whereas Kurse is only at x4.
So if the Hulk surpasses even Thor at x10 how well would Kurse do against a force that was far greater than his own? I proved that Kurse is not truly invulnerable, and iron is not the only thing that can hurt him. just remember one thing, Mindless hulk does not hold back, and outside of plot this means that he would enter WB mode.
Yep, and it didn't take him more than 5 minutes to do it. Mindless Hulk is something completely different, and ramps up very quickly. I'm just having my doubts that Kurse would be able to put him down before he got completely out of hand.
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