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UniOmni
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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Despero's the guy that almost trashed the entire JLA, right?

Yeah, JLA >>>> Magneto, despite his awesome-ness.


I used to say the same thing about Darkseid, but look what happened when Jurgens and Schultz and Loeb got their mitts on him.

And Despy while uber, is a physical powerhouse with great tp.

And Magneto has owned both in the past.

I'm not saying he'll smash Despero, but he can bfr him easily.

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BFR? Didn't Draco just say Despero can do the same? I doubt that would be a viable tactic in this fight.


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Originally posted by leonidas
his willpower wasn't enough to prevent charles from mindraping him. despero makes manhunter look like a chump in terms of tp and chuck can't even match up to manhunter featwise. if he DOESN'T have added protection in his helmet (curious where did you come bby that knowledge?) then he would be f'd. supes resisted his power briefly, but would have fallen had tornado not saved his arse . . .


That was after he fought the entire X-Men squad, and after he got stabbed in the gut by Wolverine.

He's taken Charle's full onslaught of telepathic assaults three other times, and has managed to overcome that and knock Charle's ass out.

The reason Charles doesn't have world-wide telepathy is because Magneto screwed w/ the Magneto-sphere in order for Charles to have a range limit on his telepathy. In close range, Charles is second to none.


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3 times, no helmet, full power, no-hold-barred? What the f**k?

maybe, but i'd need to see the instances you're talking about . . . and i'd still like to know where you guys came up with the idea that he gets no protection from the helmet.

and charly'd be second to despero who could do more damage than the xmen combined, in any event. and i've yet to hear how mags could beat him. and i'm not gonna buy the whole -- control the iron in his blood schtick. wink


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If Superman can take the eye and keep on trucking, i'd wager Magnus could as well.

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I.............I don't know what came over me.



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Of course, Superman is leagues above Magnus in the willpower department.

And GL Hal apparently, for that matter.

Silly me.


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3 times, no helmet, full power, no-hold-barred? What the f**k?


Yes. He's taken a major assault from Charles even when Xavier has attacked his mind when he was in bed. Mags was still able to fend off his mental attack. And no, he doesn't wear his helmet when he's about to sleep.

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maybe, but i'd need to see the instances you're talking about . . . and i'd still like to know where you guys came up with the idea that he gets no protection from the helmet.


Check out the Mag's respect thread.
And the helmet thing has never been mentioned on panel (I don't believe) and was only actually reffered to as a mental block in the movies.

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and i'm not gonna buy the whole -- control the iron in his blood schtick. wink


so you don't believe Mags could do that? or a number of other things? What the f**k?

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so you don't believe Mags could do that? or a number of other things? What the f**k?


all those points you brought up are cool and all, but i've still not seen it for myself. scans? issue numbers at least?

and no, i absolutely do NOT believe he can control the iron (if despero HAS iron . . .) in his blood.

and what 'other' things are you talking about?


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iif magneto thinks positive and acts positive, jumping around, playing air guitar and imploding/exploding matter in his immediate environment into Brilliant Fireworks Despero can't do jack .

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3 times, no helmet, full power, no-hold-barred? What the f**k?

maybe, but i'd need to see the instances you're talking about . . . and i'd still like to know where you guys came up with the idea that he gets no protection from the helmet.

and charly'd be second to despero who could do more damage than the xmen combined, in any event. and i've yet to hear how mags could beat him. and i'm not gonna buy the whole -- control the iron in his blood schtick. wink

Even Magneto's daughter Polaris was able to controll the Iron in the blood.


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Even Magneto's daughter Polaris was able to controll the Iron in the blood.


She was even able to control iron in Iceman's ice blast... confused


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Polaris controlling the iron in Havok's blood (also controlling the iron in thewater)
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Depero got incredible strenght and telepathic abilities. I Magneto isn't fast enough and Despero rips off his helmet he is ****ed...

By the way some say Polaris is even stronger than Magneto.


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Depero got incredible strenght and telepathic abilities. I Magneto isn't fast enough and Despero rips off his helmet he is ****ed...

By the way some say Polaris is even stronger than Magneto.

The Helmet doesn't protect him from telepathy


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Not anymore??? Well it protected him most of the time from Prof X....


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Not anymore??? Well it protected him most of the time from Prof X....

Only in the movie.


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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Only in the movie.


Naaah oldschool X-Men days in the early 90s. It protected him.


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cool pic of polaris -- again, i don't even know there IS iron in despero's blood. maybe, but even if he tried, despero could easily port away from the attack. i still wait to see scans of mags taking charlie's full blast without his helmet.


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ONLY time,

I'll say this again, ONLY time it has EVER been mentioned that Magneto's helmet protects him from telepathic attacks is Morrison's run on New X-Men (which happened after the movie), and we all know how good he was writing Magneto...and by "Good", I mean worst writing of Magneto ever. It is obivous that he based lot of stuff in his run in comics from movies.

EVERY time Magneto takes assault from Xavier, the helmet is not even mentioned. It is pure willpower that has enabled him to take those attacks, and it is mentioned in the scans too.


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Originally posted by UniOmni
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Of course, Superman is leagues above Magnus in the willpower department.

And GL Hal apparently, for that matter.

Silly me.


Thank you Validus. wink

Get that shit outta here!!!

For the record, I don't think Mags willpower would be shown as higher than Hal's in a book. That's Hal thing just like being the strongest there is is Hulk's thing. If Hal fell to Despero, Mags and his willpower would too.


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