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NO, he burst thru the will power of 30 GL's. I doubt Thanos break thru the will power of 30 herald lvl beings. Also, As far as planet moving, I"m saying anyone who can move planets with ease, and no one moves them easier than SBP, is above Top tier.
sorry the image was doubled. ^%$##$@ imageshack keeps %^%$#@* me over . . . anyway, when the smoke clears despero is standing beneath the tip of the rock and HOLDING IT UP!! and leaving ww laying and doing that to superman and cap marvel . . .
despero is one bad hombre . . .
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So far we all agree that Despero is in Thanos' strength league. So Thanos is not alone then. Let's test the others out in my list. Pick it apart. SBP is a hell of alot stronger than Despero, but we dont' seem to think he can hang with Thanos. why not?
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SBP punked 30 gls and moved planets so fast that no one knew. when that feat is duplicated by Despero, I'll think he's as strong as SBP. When SBP grows up and gets out of that prison and absorbs more sunlight, He's gonna be one mean and bad MF.
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not sure what you're trying to say here. sbp handled adam easier? despero has an easier time knocking around top tiers than thanos does?
and i'm not sure where the whole punking 30 gls is coming from either. despero pretty much toyed with gardner in an earlier arc. most gls with the exception of the top ones are fodder for writers.
hunter/prey doomsday and gog wars doomsday i would put in this same uber-class. sbp as well, but i'd not say he was much above -- if at all -- these others.
ps-be hard for despero (or thanos for that matter) to 'push' a planet, seeing as how he/they can't fly . . . (in that sense, planet-pushing is as much willpower as strength, since it is willpower that lets supes and sbp fly.)
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Without the strength to keep your arms grounded, they would turn to dust under all the pressure. It's strength that allows anyone to push a planet. The 30 gl's comes in when all those Gl's made a 300 mile thick wall of pure will power that SBP handily broke thru and proceeded to kill many gl's.
Its durability that allows him to survive the attack, but its strength that lets him keep advancing and resist the force opposing him and wrestle gungir from Odin. What strength would be needed for that? Captain America level? Spider-Man? Thing? Thor? Gladiator? Hulk?
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but without being able to fly, it's impossible to 'push a planet'. strength isn't letting them fly, willpower is. and they don't need arms -- shoulders will do fine. why don't they plow through the planet though? meh, pointless discussion. they need to fly to do the feat, and it takes MORE than strength to fly, and hence to push a planet.
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Not going to argue the point. IF all one needed to do was fly to be able to push a planet, Iron man or the wasp could do it. So i'm done with debating about that. we have our differences of opinion.
Quit throwing around opinions like they're solid fact.
All we know is that Despero is more powerful (presumably stronger) than regular Superman. By his feats, so is SBP. But we don't have definitive levels for either of them, so how do we "know" that SBP is more powerful??
Answer: We don't. And since Thanos usually doesn't have to push his strength limits when he slaps around heralds, we also don't know his level.
So it's pointless to try to assert things that we can't prove.
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How strong is Odin? What lvl of blast was Odin shooting out? Was it his best galaxy busting lvl? I have no way of knowing. It's all speculative unless the panel says how much force Odin was putting out and How strong Odin is. I'd wager Many beings are strong enough to do that. Doomsday certainly could. As could Despero. The thing with that trick is, Someone like SBP has the strength to do it, But I dont' know about his durability. SO it makes it hard to gage. I'm sure people can pull up insane feats of strength like the hulk clapping a cosmos. How ever strong you need to be to do that. Or Superman and Ww holding the spectre. How ever strong you need to be to do that. All of these things have the same thing in common. No quatifiable way to know how much strength is actually required. they are all shock value, awefactor feats. Some people just choose to make one mean more than another when none of them are quantifiable.
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