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Wrong, The movie clearly shows us that he is using the force to deflect the bolts. Again the link JJ posted proves this, it shows him deflecting them and turning it into raw energy and he throws it back at the storm trooper causing it to lobe his head off.
Obviously his armour cant do that right?
And his gloves having the ability to deflect bolts doenst mean shit because he turned it into raw energy.
Again he used dissipate, notice the bolts hit his hands and then turn to smoke? It cant be his gauntlet because why? The smoke trail didnt follow vaders hand.
Accept it rampant,
And no, RODV and the visual guide never stated he cannot block lightning
Wtf. The movie shows us nothing of the sort. So dont talk sh*t. We see the blasts come towards Vader (his glove specifically), then get redirected into the wall. I think it is more than reasonable to assume that it was his glove that caused the deflection, seeing we know for a fact that they can do so. Unlike your 'force deflection' theory of which your only piece of evidence has been destroyed by the databank.
Are you kidding me? We see him deflect two bolts, one with his lightsaber and the other with his glove. What point are you making?
Ummm...
More visible durasteel plates cover his shoulders, upper body and shins. He wears a suit of quilted flexible blast-dampening multi-ply padding, and a cloak of armor weave. His gloves are made with a unique micronized iron that can deflect anything short of a lightsaber blow.
Yes it can.
When have we ever seen smoke follow any laser bolt. How about I answer that for you...Never. So again, dont talk sh*t.
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Rampant ox, you are getting very annoying
Do you expect the people who watched the movie for the first time in what 1980 something to know that he used his gloves to deflect the bolts? Stop being stupid, Movie is higher canon, Whats wrong? Dont like it being used against you? And he demonstrated this several times in the EU, if his armour is so almighty, why the hell bother to stick up his hand and rather let the bolt hit him?
Are you kidding me? He diverted several bolts by creating a shield, and did you look at the other link? He turned the bolt into energy and clearly durasteel armour cant do that
Already refuted, see the above
Yes it can.
Read my post FFS, i said vader used dissipate and the bolt got dissipated and THERE WAS smoke, It couldnt be the gauntlet because the smoke DID NOT follow his gauntlet
I thought it was quite obvious that it was his glove that deflected them. To put it simply, bolt comes towards glove, bolt gets deflected away. Logical to assume, even without the databank, that it was his glove which deflected it.
Wtf are you spewing out now? Im going by the movie just like you are, only I have the databank to back up what im saying. So dont patronise me.
For two reasons methinks. Ill even list them to make it easier for you. Reason 1: Only his gloves have the magnetic capability to deflect them. Reason 2: He was about to use the force to grab hold of Hans blade. Putting your hand up to catch it would be the logical thing to do.
I see him block one (or more, hard to tell) with his saber. Then he blocks one with his glove. What is this sh*t about turning it into energy? Its just the same laser bolt which has been deflected.
I dont understand your logic. Laser bolst never leaves a trail of smoke. Point moot. there was smoke around the gauntlet because that is where it made contact and was deflected. Your are either really dumb or really stubborn if you dont accept that.
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Bullshit, i just checked the databanks, No where does it state what you just said, You liar. Again this points gets refuted with JJs links, using the force to catch to bolts and then turn them to raw energy.
And i have everything to back me up, And the databank made no such statement
1) Again he used the force, he proved it in empire comics several times
2) Then why he put his hands up to block the storm troopers bolts? He wasnt going to snatch his rifle wasnt he? I thought vaders almighty armour could block bolts, so again why did he put up his hands?
When you deflect a bolt, FFS when it hits your opponrnt, his head isnt suppose to fly off, even if it was a direct hit, He therefor used the force to enhance its power and throws it back, Now obviously he would have no time to quickly enhance the bolts power if he was using his gauntlet, he would have to use the force to deflect it am i correct?
Oops i forgot to add this, Dissipate and deflection are powers only Masters an do right? how bout this quote Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith, was the scourge of the Jedi, a master of the dark side of the Force, From the databanks itself, And being a powerful force user i doubt that he has not learnt dissipate and deflection
Dude are you dumb or what? did you read my post? i said that the bolts turned to smoke when he dissipated them, and that it could not have been is gauntlet because The smoke trail did not follow his hhand
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Actually your denial is just as annoying, You refused to accept the fact thhat vader as a dark side master has mastered the dissipation ability and deflection ability and i clearly explained it.
I clearly explained the part of vader using the force in empire comics to deflect the bolts with the force,
Again if his damm suit is so almighty that his armour can block the bolts, Why in the name if screaming shit did he have to divert to bolts and bother to block it with his hands and his lightsaber if his armour can already block it!
i do apologise however for calling you a liar, i was looking under characters not technology.
Again the databanks are not G-canon and the movies are, The banks are C-canon
I've actually never noticed that it reflects back into the wall...
In any case, it was meant to be an act of power that Han and his motley crew could not contest with. Armored glove or neat Force power, who cares; it's ****ing awesome.
Meanwhile, I don't think armor can reflect. Also, no smoke coming from the glove.
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