Aww I am the only one who feels that way? That's adorable lightsnake. I've yet to see someone feel OTHERWISE. And it's adorable how your last resort is to "appeal" to other internet people to fight your depression. BTW what does me stating facts have to do with my apparent insecurities? Do you think before you type, or does your star wars obsession cloud your little brain?
Aww how cute. You respond with "I know you are but what am I". That's so original lightsnake. Next time I tell you you suck at life, I advise you to repeat the same thing back at me. That will show me! What a brilliant debater you are, especially when you lose.
Add me to the list of people who don't agree with your assertions, DS. Lightsnake definately has debating ability and he is far from being incompetent or just "average" in that area. Neither are you. In fact, your "problem" is one that you both share - you get reckless and (in my opinion) are too quick to respond. You jump at impulse. Other than that, you're both great.
If I am to assume that this is LotF Jacen, then I would say that he is definately "more powerful" than Kun at this point. Jacen was able to match a Sith phantom of Luke (the phantom was supposed to be a "fair match for Luke" from Jacen and the narrator's perspective) in single combat. He was also described in either Bloodlines or Tempest as the most powerful Jedi in the Order other than Luke himself.
Luke is more powerful than Kun, and not by a mere small fraction.
However, I need to keep reminding myself that the strongest doesn't always win (ala Obi-Wan and Anakin). Kun has those amulet blasts, which I do believe are an incredible advantage, and I'd wager that he has more Sith knowledge than the neophyte Jacen.
So, I would say that it is close, but my stance is that Jacen is more powerful, in both the Force and overall mastery.
Problem is escape, Kun has more weapons in his arsenal, a LOT more offensive weapons. What exactly does jacen have that's beneficial to him in a fight against an ancient DLOTS? We both know his saber skills are inferior to Kun, so what else is there for him?
His lightsaber skills are inferior to Kun? Again, he was able to match a Sith phantom of Luke blow-for-blow, and Luke is greater in both fields than Kun.
Was Luke going all out? Was Jacen't power being amplified by Lumiya? don't you think that fight was a little too ambiguous to be a deciding factor for Jacen's saber skills? There's no evidence that shows they are better than Kun's, nor on par.
No, you don't know the details because they fought force versions of themselves. For all you know Jacen could have had the power of Lumiya, or Luke wasn't going all out. You DONT know that they were fighting their hardest, in fact I have the book right in front of me. And I don't think killing slayers puts him above Kun in saber combat, because he's not. Kun never lost a saber fight while being described as a prodigy. On the other hand nothing is ever stated about Jacen's saber skills, so no reason to assume otherwise just because it's convenient.
No, I know the details because of the fact they were written in the book.
And Kun fought very few people. Even in his own war....wow.
And Jacen doesn't need any statements on his saber skills. Like Luke, he's shown ample abilities
[QUOTE=8329199]Originally posted by Lightsnake
No, I know the details because of the fact they were written in the book.
No no, LUKE has shown that he doesn't need any statements, and KUN has shown he doesn't need any statements. Yet you find one example with jacen and suddenly he's teh uber. Logic>Fanboyism.
Kun's shown he doesn't? dueling people, who for the most part, were thoroughly unimpressive means little. If you bothered to read, you'd see Jacen's abilities.
Logic most certainly does>Fanboyism and it's trumping yours
Oh how cute, repeat what I said back to me, thanks parrot. Considering I dislike Kun and you're embarassing yourself with the Jacen fanboyism, I guess logic defeats your argument yet again. So are you going to keep on crying or are you going to get over it? And I guess you forgot what Kun's spirit did to Luke and his students, but please, show us some more denial. I think it's getting humorous.
Feb 6th, 2007 08:52 PM
