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Mr Master
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But the IG was only extent to the 616 reality wasn't it, Thanos couldn't jump into different realities like the infinites apparently can.


We also have to remember that Thanos only wanted One Universe.


When Eternity and the rest went to the Living Tribunal for help, he said he would not interfere, because Thanos only wanted Eternity's position, (One Universe)
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I'm sure Thanos could have taken most of the Universes in Marvel if he wanted to, he knew it too.
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There are less than a handful of Characters (IMO) that did Not appear in the Infinity Arc that Potentially MIGHT be able to stop him,

but who knows.


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im sure he meant all universes within one multiverse not within all multiverses. Although the Ig never showed that power(i.e. Un but that comes down to abc logic which doesnt really work.) The Ig may have multiversal (one multiverse) only very minor.


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We also have to remember that Thanos only wanted One Universe.


When Eternity and the rest went to the Living Tribunal for help, he said he would not interfere, because Thanos only wanted Eternity's position, (One Universe)
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I'm sure Thanos could have taken most of the Universes in Marvel if he wanted to, he knew it too.
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"Supreme being in This, and All Universes"



There are less than a handful of Characters (IMO) that did Not appear in the Infinity Arc that Potentially MIGHT be able to stop him,

but who knows.


What about Eternity that was easily removed by Adam, was that multi ore universal. Which Characters are you thinking off Pre-recton Beyonder, LT, Pre retcon Brothers??? just interestet.

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Originally posted by Mordum
We dont know how powerful the infinites are. They said they are greater than any sinlge reality. That could mean 2 or 3 or even 1 million. Just becasue an infinite manhandled a single eternity didnt mean he couldnt have raped multi eternity. They live outside the multiverse.


Nah,

I doubt that.


The Infinites practically Work for the Multiverse,


"We are greater than any single Reality"
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"We are rearranging the Galaxies -- to improve the balance of the Multi-verse beyond"


They're like a Maintenance Crew for the Multiverse.



It's conceivable that the Infinites are more powerful than several Eternitys,

but Thanos still takes it 10/10




btw. An entire Infinite "died" in the end, and re-created a Planet with it's Essence.

The Infinite said it would continue to expand, to other Worlds it has destroyed.

(This is impressive, since the Infinites obliterated Worlds across the Multiverse, everytime they rearranged Galaxies)


The Infinite dies
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Originally posted by Utrigita
What about Eternity that was easily removed by Adam, was that multi ore universal.
That was single Eternity, (one Universe).


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What about Eternity that was easily removed by Adam, was that multi ore universal.


Single.


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Which Characters are you thinking off Pre-recton Beyonder, LT, Pre retcon Brothers??? just interestet.


LT - surely

Pre-retcon Beyonder and Molecule Man - surely

Jaspers 616 - ?

HOM Wanda - ?

CB w/Excalibur & the Amulet - ?

Havok w/the Nexus of Realities - surely



I don't mess with the Pre-retcon Brothers, that was garbage to me.

Now Post-retcon Brothers?

Thanos wins, (IMO)


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Single.




LT - surely

Pre-retcon Beyonder and Molecule Man - surely

Jaspers 616 - ?

HOM Wanda - ?

CB w/Excalibur & the Amulet - ?

Havok w/the Nexus of Realities - surely



I don't mess with the Pre-retcon Brothers, that was garbage to me.

Now Post-retcon Brothers?

Thanos wins, (IMO)


And I don't mess with Secret Wars II wink

Okay just wanted to see if we agree, what about nemesis and the Beyonders?

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And I don't mess with Secret Wars II wink


Yea, but I still read Marvel vs DC quite thoroughly. wink

I try to read everything that involves Marvel Cosmics, regardless of my initial opinion.


You may not like the idea of Secret Wars II, but you should still read them anyway, then you'll have reasons for your decision. smile


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Okay just wanted to see if we agree, what about nemesis and the Beyonders?


I go by the idea that the Original Nemesis was the Infinity Being, the True ALL of Creation in the beginning.

The Infinity Being then exploded in a Cosmic suicide because it was bored Alone.


The Official Eternity Bio calls it, the "PREVIOUS Version of Eternity"
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Beyonders?

Difficult to gauge, the entire Realm?

May be as or more powerful than the IG, I'm speculating based on the Cosmic Cube Feats.

A Cosmic Containment Unit is but a "Minute bit" of their power according to the Living Tribunal himself.


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From seeing the scans and reading the comics, along with Bigbran, I have to say LT is not one of those who would be able to take on an infinite.

The LT was defeated by the HOTU, and on the Michael Vs. LT thread, the scans and evidence heavily substantiate that LT is indeed below universal power, as it was shown the HOTU gave thanos the power of 1 and only 1 universe.

HOTU (1 universe) > LT

If the infinities are beyond any 1 eternity, then going by on panel, they > LT.

I go by whats on panel Mr. M, and as Bigbran so clearly pointed out many times, the entire HOTU arc states and alludes to the HOTU being universal 9+ times, and makes no mention of the multiverse ever.


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From seeing the scans and reading the comics, along with Bigbran, I have to say LT is not one of those who would be able to take on an infinite.

The LT was defeated by the HOTU, and on the Michael Vs. LT thread, the scans and evidence heavily substantiate that LT is indeed below universal power, as it was shown the HOTU gave thanos the power of 1 and only 1 universe.

HOTU (1 universe) > LT

If the infinities are beyond any 1 eternity, then going by on panel, they > LT.

I go by whats on panel Mr. M, and as Bigbran so clearly pointed out many times, the entire HOTU arc states and alludes to the HOTU being universal 9+ times, and makes no mention of the multiverse ever.

But then again
Living Tribunal >> IG > I-IG >> UN >> Multiverse

Compare it to the Conductor (Matrix Revolution)
He was God in his creation, not even Neo stood a chanse against him there.

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Compare it to the Conductor (Matrix Revolution)
He was God in his creation, not even Neo stood a chanse against him there.
That's actually a pretty good analogy.


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From seeing the scans and reading the comics, along with Bigbran, I have to say LT is not one of those who would be able to take on an infinite.

The LT was defeated by the HOTU, and on the Michael Vs. LT thread, the scans and evidence heavily substantiate that LT is indeed below universal power, as it was shown the HOTU gave thanos the power of 1 and only 1 universe.

HOTU (1 universe) > LT

If the infinities are beyond any 1 eternity, then going by on panel, they > LT.

I go by whats on panel Mr. M, and as Bigbran so clearly pointed out many times, the entire HOTU arc states and alludes to the HOTU being universal 9+ times, and makes no mention of the multiverse ever.

And yet the HOTU is above IG, and the IG isn't restricted to a single reality (LT in a way defeated IG thus proving stronger then IG), and in Thanos The End correct my if I am wrong but didn't he absorb the multiverse with the HOTU, tried to go to the omniverse but he couldn't, clearly he isn't resticted to a single universe by absorbing a multiverse.

And a importent difference between IG and HOTU is that it doesn't grant the wielder more wisdom ore intelligence.

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And yet the HOTU is above IG, and the IG isn't restricted to a single reality (LT in a way defeated IG thus proving stronger then IG), and in Thanos The End correct my if I am wrong but didn't he absorb the multiverse with the HOTU, tried to go to the omniverse but he couldn't, clearly he isn't resticted to a single universe by absorbing a multiverse.

And a importent difference between IG and HOTU is that it doesn't grant the wielder more wisdom ore intelligence.


What happened was, he absorbed the entire universe he was in, and he became that entire universe, he became just as all the other purple spheres around him, the infinite universes ebbing and flowing in Infinite and oblivion.

He was unable to go any further then this.

The HOTU was much greater in power as it was the power of the supreme being of marvel, but Thanos was only allowed a very small portion of it, the exact portion it was shown on panel, to make him a universe and nothing more.

The word and term universe/universal was said and referenced to in the arc 9+ times, well on the other hand the word multiversal was said and referenced to 0 times.

The IG may have had the power to manipulate universes, but that is not saying it was greater then any one universe by itself.

The bottom line is, on panel LT was defeated by the power of 1 universe and nothing more.

The power of one complete universe > LT


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The bottom line is, on panel LT was defeated by the power of 1 universe and nothing more.

The power of one complete universe > LT
Wrong.

This would mean that a single Eternity>LT.

We know this is not true........... how you ask?

Because the IG>>>Eternity,

and...

LT>>IG.



LT is MUCH greater the one Universe.


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Wrong.

This would mean that a single Eternity>LT.

We know this is not true........... how you ask?

Because the IG>>>Eternity,

and...

LT>>IG.



LT is MUCH greater the one Universe.


yes


I gave up on that kid a while ago, he's stuck.


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And the Heart of The universe linked every being in the Universe together that including LT M-body, he didn't destroy it he merly absorbed it into himself, since he was already everyone and everything.

And another thing didn't he in the interim wasn't Thanos driven to mindless rage by the attempt of the Great Powers to usurp his reign and decided absorb the entirety of the multi-verse back into himself, so that none might ever again threaten his reign, thus ending the this particular multi-verse, just wanted it cleared read it on marvel.com


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What happened was, he absorbed the entire universe he was in, and he became that entire universe, he became just as all the other purple spheres around him, the infinite universes ebbing and flowing in Infinite and oblivion.

He was unable to go any further then this.

The HOTU was much greater in power as it was the power of the supreme being of marvel, but Thanos was only allowed a very small portion of it, the exact portion it was shown on panel, to make him a universe and nothing more.

The word and term universe/universal was said and referenced to in the arc 9+ times, well on the other hand the word multiversal was said and referenced to 0 times.

The IG may have had the power to manipulate universes, but that is not saying it was greater then any one universe by itself.

The bottom line is, on panel LT was defeated by the power of 1 universe and nothing more.

The power of one complete universe > LT





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yes


I gave up on that kid a while ago, he's stuck.


The Scans show otherwise


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The Scans show otherwise


And what does the scans show to be precise

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The Scans show otherwise


If you say so friend.


I'll stick to what the Marvel says.


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