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Leonardo and Raphael versus Michaelangelo and Donatello
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sias arnt normally sharp....... stick out tongue


DAMN! i got owned!!
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Capt it up, the fact is, theyre all pretty skilled. And it may be, but as you said yourself, Donatello, who has ONE weapon, it the least skilled fighter of the turtles.

yes, but he weapon is designed to dela with two weapons. His wepaon reach advantage is designed to combat oponet who wield two smaller weapons such as sia's.

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DAMN! i got owned!!
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lol it actaully a true statment

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yes, but he weapon is designed to dela with two weapons. His wepaon reach advantage is designed to combat oponet who wield two smaller weapons such as sias.


You know, if we fights, i prefer two sias instead of a obowink
while you defends against one of my strikes, i hits with the other weaponsmile
And the way he holds his obo staff dont gives it THAT much greater reach. And again, he is the turtle in the worst shape as he uses more time inventing than fighting


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actaully the bo staff is a rather simple weapon to use.


a kitana ( well it really not a kitana, but any ways) would likly be the next hardest weapon to use. It is simple in the sense any one can pick it up and use it however in order to full master it effectivly is mroe difficult. The bo staff is an easier weapon to master.


How do you figure the Bo is the easiest weapon to use?
The Bo is a purely defensive weapon. You have to worry more about defense than offense. Don has to worry about getting stabbed or sliced not only on his body but his hands as well. Also the amount of energy required to do damage. Yes the Bo has a long reach but, where's the offense?
The Bo reqires timing and patience, you find an oppening and strike.

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nunckucks are made of metal as well and if im not mistaken most of the time. also you take a bo staff to the head or a nunuck you are very much dead.


Chuks are made of both wood or metal. How much energy is required to weild a Bo staff to do major damage? Alot this hightens the difficulty rating

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How do you figure the Bo is the easiest weapon to use?
The Bo is a purely defensive weapon. You have to worry more about defense than offense. Don has to worry about getting stabbed or sliced not only on his body but his hands as well. Also the amount of energy required to do damage. Yes the Bo has a long reach but, where's the offense?
The Bo reqires timing and patience, you find an oppening and strike.

bo offesne prowess is that fact it has a long reach. It had to damage some one who you can not get close to. also a real BO staff is far longer then Don weapon. It is also easier to sue then a kitana. Bo staff a generally harder to use at first, but easier to master then the kitana. If you don't believe me be my guest and look it up


also the sia's in my oponion are the easiest to use.

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Chuks are made of both wood or metal. How much energy is required to weild a Bo staff to do major damage? Alot this hightens the difficulty rating

not that much actaully. It ratehr easy to cause damage once you get the hang of it.

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You know, if we fights, i prefer two sias instead of a obowink
while you defends against one of my strikes, i hits with the other weaponsmile
And the way he holds his obo staff dont gives it THAT much greater reach. And again, he is the turtle in the worst shape as he uses more time inventing than fighting


not me. If I was wielding a BO staff you never get close enough to cause me any damage what so ever.


actaully if you watch when don attacks he weapon gives him far greater reach. It true however that it not an accurate potrail of the size of an actaul bo staff.

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bo offesne prowess is that fact it has a long reach. It had to damage some one who you can not get close to. also a real BO staff is far longer then Don weapon. It is also easier to sue then a kitana. Bo staff a generally harder to use at first, but easier to master then the kitana. If you don't believe me be my guest and look it up


also the sia's in my oponion are the easiest to use.


The Sai(s) and the Kitana are about the same in difficulty. The Kitana has a better reach than the Sai and is not required for extremely in close combat; however the Sai requires in closer combat with no sharp edges, but can be used effectively as a projectile weapon.

Post up a thread on weapon difficulty

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The Sai(s) and the Kitana are about the same in difficulty. The Kitana has a better reach than the Sai and is not required for extremely in close combat; however the Sai requires in closer combat with no sharp edges, but can be used effectively as a projectile weapon.

Post up a thread on weapon difficulty


why?


sai's are often one of the first allowed weapon pupil can train with as well as bo staff's. Kitana are normal thought of as advanced weapons as are nunchucks

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why?


sai's are often one of the first allowed weapon pupil can train with as well as bo staff's. Kitana are normal thought of as advanced weapons as are nunchucks


Yeah give a student in training a deadly weapon like that.

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Yeah give a student in training a deadly weapon like a sai.

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sia's are not deadly though there mainly a defensive weapon. There not even sharp there tips are rounded.


your not very well versed in wepaons such as the sia are you.......

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Leo's the best fighter. In the comic series, he beat the other three one on one on at LEAST an occasion or two, if I recall correctly.

Capt is right, that Mikey is a natural, but he never trains, while Leo spends almost ALL his free time trying to hone his skills.

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sia's are not deadly though there mainly a defensive weapon. There not even sharp there tips are rounded.


your not very well versed in wepaons such as the sia are you.......


Traditionally sai's are not sharp. That doesn't mean that Raphael's aren't.

I mean, hell, Elektra's are.


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sia's are not deadly though there mainly a defensive weapon. There not even sharp there tips are rounded.


your not very well versed in wepaons such as the sia are you.......


yeah I know they are not (traditionally) sharp i have already stated that. Don't jump to conclusions.
It just so happen that my cousin owns his on practice in the arts of Tae Kwon Do and has won numerous awards in martial arts. I have spent some time learning a thing or two as well, I am just not dedicated enough to be serious. You are right I don't know anything about Sai(s) or any other weapon for that matter, even though he has got tons of them hanging on the walls.

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actaully the bo staff is a rather sinple weapon to use.


a kitana ( well it really not a kitana, but any ways) would likly be the next hardest weapon to use. It is simple in the sense any one can pick it up and use it however in order to full master it effectivly is mroe difficult. The bo staff is an easier weapon to master.


What the f**k?

Simple to use? Yea, if you're fighting babies perhaps. The bo staff is easily one of the most complex weapons to use PROPERLY. It's reach gives Donny a big advantage over Leo and ESPECIALLY over Raph. Hell, it's design makes it one of the best to combat swords, too.

And then, of course, Mikey's got the speed.


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i also think in the comics Leo was portrayed as the most skilled
Leo's team for the win

where i get my info from(some training and great friend who is a sensei)
Bo staff is first learned,then sai,then nunchauks,then would be the wakisashi samurai sword(i think thats what it is?its not a katana right?)

But hey alot of teachers have their own method of teaching and what weapons they would teach first,so nobody is right or wrong hehe


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IMO

Bo staff (Pros) great reach, prevents in close combat
(Cons) hands vulnerable to attack, weilder may be vulnerable to counter attacks

Sai (Pros) quick to maneauver, great as projectiles, great for trapping weapons through the ends.
(Cons) short reach, force in close combat,

Katana (Pros) both offensive and defensive effectiveness, can be affective in both short and md range combat.
(Cons) I have no Idea

Nunchuks (Pros) quick weilding, great for dissarming opponents
(Cons) short reach, may force in close combat


Feel free to post up your thoughts

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